JUMBALAYA FRIDAY: JAN 6 INSURRECTION THAT NEVER WAS, SHUTDOWN & MORE

All right, welcome back to the gut chart podcast. I'm Chang with Sam and the Statson. So there's three of us in the studio. Yeah. Um it is a jumbolaya session. A smogusborg of um issues to discuss. Yeah.

I think we should start with the the 20 point piece plan. Um we didn't think it was going to happen and here we are. First phase has actually been signed off. That's interesting. Well, I I I wouldn't say we didn't think it's going to happen. I think maximum 50% correct success chance. I think we were looking at uh a 50/50, right? Both of us actually, right?

So where So I mean uh yesterday or the day before um with the signing of the deal uh in Egypt by uh Hamas and uh and also endorsed by the Israeli already, right? So the deal is on that's um um uh statements has come out from Hamas has statement has come out from uh the Israeli government and uh definitely from Donald Trump. Okay. So there's three phases, right? So this is the first phase.

The first phase. The now I think let's just say it this way. What's your percentage uh uh do you give uh for success of the whole plan? Well, if I had the whole thing, the whole plan.

So on a mathematical basis, right? Um I give it a 45 to 50% chance. Uh now that one of three has been signed off, that increases the probability by a third. So I would say now 60 to 65%.

Holy I guess. So, I mean I mean that's mathematical. No, no, no, no, no. You know what it is? Actually, I was thinking about it last night and I came up to exactly 65. Oh

Yeah. hell, man. Yeah, I know what. Okay. Yeah. So, I'm I'm like I'm I'm I I was curious to hear what your assessment would be, you know, and my my caveat for that is because I don't trust Hamas.

Okay. Um and they don't trust each other. They don't trust each other either. But the thing is the thing is I guess the the the if you were to ask me my my u what do you call what I think the carrot that has been dangled to Hamas is this. You're going to get amnesty. Okay. And you're going to get construction in the uh territory

and the Arabs nations are the one that are pumping money into the territory. So instead of making money from the funds of terrorism, you make money from uh the reconstruction of the territory. That's my wild guess as what's been going on behind the scene.

You know, I don't know because at the end of the day, all these uh all these guys, it's all about money. Yeah. But for the jihadist, their motivations are different, right? True. And if you then change their reasons for their existence, then they will I mean they might protest, right?

Well, you see what I mean to I mean they may not be spiritually on to put a pin on that, right? Yeah. The the rank and file jihadist um are mainly controlled by their political leaders.

Okay. The political leaders may be uh Islamist jihadist um that uh that has a certain ideology. But I think most of them are all corrupt. Their biggest ideology is actually steal money.

Yeah. Okay. That one I agree with. Right. Their rank and file may not agree because they just been told a different narrative. Correct. So I think the the issue uh moving forward then is actually you will still have uh the rank and file uh cells that will operate.

Yeah. And how do you then um actually um manage that? Not just manage, basically slowly eliminate those rank and file uh sales. And I think if you ask me um the path to that has been has been shown by MBS in Saudi Arabia.

Yeah. Right. So I think I think that's all we should talk for now with respect to this uh uh latest development 6545. All right, let's end it at that and let's see what happens after that.

All right, because the bigger thing well at least the bigger thing uh on paper in in America is the fact that the government has actually shut down. Okay, it's the first time in four years that it's actually happened. Mhm.

Um and uh this is interesting because a lot of the government departments are not uh working anymore. They're not functioning, right? And uh so I guess you know the the thing is what happens right? I mean the financial markets don't really care but the government workers do obviously a lot of them have been furled. Furled means they there might be it might be a permanent uh um um sacking termination or some of them might return to work. Who knows right? Um what do you think? Well, uh I've seen in in in in my adult life a few uh government shutdowns. Yeah. Actually,

it's not uh it's not um uh a Trump thing. Um Obama did that to get when he was in power actually to get the the Affordable Care Act, the Obama care u to be passed. Um I think I think almost every administration if I may recall uh has had to deal with it in one way or another. But um and I I I see this as always a bump in the road in in in the way government business is run in America because actually I think there are people who make comments outside uh in in our circle of in in in Malaysia elite circle that says you know uh where's the leadership they can't even

get uh their budget passed or or whatever right well let me tell these guys one thing that's how actual democracy ought to work because you don't rubber stamp, right? That's the difference. They need a 60 vote uh majority to pass that. So, um they need Democrats to actually peel off from the from the block and vote with the Republicans in order to get that pass. The thing is I I believe you know the um this from the Republican side is is very much a simple saying. This is a a clean uh uh CR bill that actually is a is is basically a continuation of the big beautiful bill

that you all Democrats had just had already passed prior, right? Why do you want to make changes now? And uh and and the only reason they want to have changes is because they say um u you want to hand down more money almost a trillion to cover for uh the illegal immigrants that are in the country. Now on the rep on the Democrat side on the other hand they say oh there's no such thing you know this is actually you know the uh the reason for it is uh uh to cut the the the the medical benefits um uh for the ordinary people. Now the if that's true here's a very simple

question. If that's true, why pass the beautiful bill in the first place? Because it's the same bill, right? It's just a continuation. That's why it's called a continuation resolution to f to continue funding for the next seven weeks,

right? So why are you making an issue about it now? So the thing is that's the truth. That's that you're just making a political theater about it. Do you know Chuck Schumer is probably going to uh the the the leader of the minority

and the shutdown's named after him by the way, right? Schumer shut down. Yeah, that's what they're trying to call it. But uh you know, he has to show some fight. He's got AOC in New York gunning after his uh his uh his leadership position. M so um it's a lot of politics but at the end of the day I mean I would rather I I think it will it will blow over um the more interesting part since they brought out healthcare

right is actually the health care system in America uh is the one that needs to be really uh looked at. I think that's one of the things we may want to to touch on, you know, but maybe we put that at the back,

you know, because the health care system in America is uh makes no sense to me. I mean, this is a country that uh I admire a lot. Uh I I look at uh the US as something that you know uh people in this side of the world especially us Malaysia we have so much in common in the way we could develop our country in their in their model. Okay. And and be very successful but there's one area which I think they have failed miserably and that's healthcare. They um they are the most expensive in the western world.

Yeah. and they uh actually deliver the less uh and the most expensive uh in all aspects of it. Um I think um um the deal which is very interesting the deal with FISA that Trump and RFK Jr. debt right which is to equalize the price of uh the drugs that FISA sells in Europe to be the same uh as in US. Can you imagine that your own company is charging your people

more multiples right and basically using that and subsidizing Western Europe so what's going on right and what's going on is very simple I'll tell the our American audience is the reason why you cannot actually uh uh what do you call break this monopoly of healthcare uh uh uh of uh the medical industry, the pharma industry, uh the health management industry, the HMO and the insurance industry. These four subindustry make up the mess that is healthcare in the US. Why it's why after Obamacare supposedly to give everybody more access to health care actually Obamacare

exploded the insurance premium right and why it's because Congress is basically held hostage to the industrial lobby of all these industries you know

I remember when during co um and people were forced to stay at home and then to be forced to be vaccinated, right? Yeah. On pain of um basically civil liberties, shall we say, right?

And then the year after that, was it one or two years after that, FISA reported earnings and I think their earnings balloon sales of just one drug balloon to like three was 30 billion or 300 billion from that one year alone. It was it was preposterous.

You must think about it. It's worldwide. Yeah. So, I don't think it's 30 billion. It was crazy. It was I think maybe it could even Yeah. I don't know. I can't remember. I know it was a three and I know it was billion. I just don't know whether it's 30 or 300, but it was it was ton, right? But at the end of the day, Sam, um the government shutdown in America is always based on a disagreement between both sides on how they should allocate the capital, right? How to spend is a it's a spending dispute, right?

The the what what you cannot dispute is that America's in a lot of financial pain right now, right? I I read somewhere today this morning that 6% of Americans something like two two you know 25 million people are considered hardcore poor in America like hardcore like literally scratching a living from the earth and it shouldn't be this case I mean you are the richest country in the world and you got 20 million of your people hardcore poor I mean I would understand if you're in Myanmar or something but that's a lot right

well you know hardcore poor in America here's the funny thing about hardcore poor in America take off the homeless and the um uh and those that that that that fell by the wayside, right? They're not 20 million. Okay, let me put it that way.

More than that. Less than that. Yeah. Very much less than that. Okay. The ones that you see uh uh you know um for whether um they are um drug addicts or fall on hard times uh in in homeless shelters and all that. They're not 20 million.

Well, I mean, but let let me explain how I see it. Yeah. Okay. So, those things can be handled by society actually if the society is willing to do something. The problem with uh places like California where um um they consider to just let it be. So, you see all these encampments that you don't see in in in in Texas.

Okay. So, but put that aside because I do think that can you imagine this when the uh I think Cin Ping came to California or something like that, right? All of a sudden the whole place is cleaned up,

right? Oh, the roots has come. You could house these people properly actually. So, let's put it that way. Okay. Then then you talk about your 20 million so-called hardcore poor.

You know, I look at the hardcore poor. I lived with hardcore poor uh when I was in university, right? I mean because dude,

are you sure you're among the hardcore poor? No, no, no. When I was in the university, hardcore poor is hardcore poor. Hardcore poor is you can't even you don't even know what you're having for hard place to stay. No, no, no. Right. No, hardcore. You have no food. Right.

That that's not hardcore poor yet. That's you are talking then when you say like that you got no place to stay. No place to stay. You're homeless. you can't that's that's not 20 million I can tell you that's more than that that's less than that okay those are the ones I just mentioned which is those living in homeless shelter okay those that are on the streets okay the 20 million that you're talking about your hardcore poor are basically living on food stamps okay living on ghetto

let me explain that and I'm coming from the perspective that I know okay and I can because why my scholarship and I don't earn anything else because I can't work all right and even if I was working in the in in the mid80s okay I was on min I I could only work at the university on minimum salary all right which is probably about two $2 plus per hour $250 per hour or some something like that you know and u and and um I was earning like I I would My scholarship was like 400 bucks a month. 400 bucks.

So you're living on the hardcore. Yeah. Okay. 400 bucks a month is what? 400 bucks a month. You you you know you're you're you are and I was living basically uh fringe of ghettos because I I don't dare to to to stay in uh in in those uh you know but

man like you in a ghetto goodness gracious you don't it won't last a night man. No, no, no. Do you know what I mean? Right. No, you were looking at you yellow man and forget it. Die first night die. My friend, boom. My my friend

night I rain. I I where I was staying, how I was staying, the area I was staying. Um uh that's what it is. Okay. But I go back to this same adage. I think it's all about culture in America. If you ask me right, if you can't make a decent living in America, something is wrong with you. Seriously speaking, guys, something is wrong with you. And you look at hard

because of everything though, isn't it? Right. Yeah. You can earn a decent salary, but can you afford to exist with a decent salary? Well, you can't afford wages have gone up by this quantum every year, bro. Prices of uh dwellings have gone up by this much every year. And we know that to be the case

rentals, let me let me let's let's people are not living in their cars. Let's stop this short uh discussion and I want to go into uh another topic but I'm going to tell you this, right?

Think about how I you and I grow up. Okay, how did I grow up? My dad was a primary school teacher. Okay, not very not not not much not much money. Even then, actually, I never had a color television when I was growing up. I only had one TV, okay? I uh black and white. Um we had one car, okay? Uh which No, no,

that's a luxury. The fact that you had a car was a luxury, dude. In America, you go to the so-called hardcore poor areas and you see what they have in their house. The problem

washing machine, television, car, right? Yeah. Yeah. And then they going to and then they go buy, you know, uh food that actually you you you look at what what they they put on their on their trays. You said, "What what is this?

What are they buying?" you know what are what are they buying all the all the nonsense stuff instead of you know food that are actually healthy right French fries and stuff like that yeah

so so I think it's a question of education and cultural and where are these hardcore poor inner cities mostly now I'm not talking about the Ozarks or or you know the I mean in uh uh in in West Virginia and all that thing they have their they their own issues, but mostly the hardcore poor is in the inner cities.

Well, the reason I brought up the hardcore poor and the reason I brought up the fiscal situation was because actually I was watching the video that you sent last night um about the Treasury Secretary Scott Bessins. Um and and there was a big deal being made about community banking, right? And about community bankers. And to me it seems as if um part of the problem with the poor situation is the way that the financial system has been hijacked by industry. Right now the banks whether you call it JP Morgan or Bank of America or Wells Fargo they have raised they

have literally not done justice to the American people. The way they look at banking now is is so safe and and literally you the only reason the only way you can actually raise money from a banker is you have money or assets in the first place. Otherwise they won't touch you with the 10 yard pole. So they kind of shot themselves in the foot and they have actually been leading this whole financial revolution the industry the last 20 30 years right. So when Scott Besson talks about how oh the financial industry should return to its roots as a community banker I said fine

try and convince the bankers to do so you know because if you don't own an asset to collateralize they're not going to touch you with a 10ear so if you part of the hardcore poor you can't you can't borrow money you're unbankable

I think I think so while he's talking about something sensible um I don't think it's realistic I think I think if you ask me u Um I think if you ask me on that score, look at what we have here in Malaysia. We don't even have community banks anymore at all. But they still do. And I think that that what's more important for the for for community banking and communities is actually small businesses. All right. And the small businesses are the one that actually hire all these people who would have gone into uh a situation where they are hardcore poor. So that's how the trickle effect happens

because capital will liberate people, right? Yeah. It can give you an income. It can give you a little raise to start your business. Right. So can we but if Yeah. Yeah. Can can can we take it in in this manner now that we we we we go into this? I see that I see that there's so many wins uh within the uh within the current Trump administration. I mean it's like win after win after win but the man but the administration uh does not get much credit at all if at all they they give it. I mean, they've been very grudging about the uh uh the peace deal in Israel and Palestine. Uh

the last two nights I've I've been listening. Um basically, I would call it um it's it's basically TDS, the Trump the Trump derangement syndrome everywhere uh all over the place, right? And I think I think it all boils down and I want to touch this because we did not have an opportunity

to discuss about this point uh which is January 6. M you know I think the uh one of the biggest thing and even uh I hear among middle of the road Republican right not pure MAGA people right

is how January 6 uh uh in the 2020 I believe right 2020 2021 after the January 6 2021 the yeah the fourth anniversary now the term that he lost right? um how that is described as an insurrection and that's one of the basis of all this propaganda that makes it such a headwind um towards what they want to see happen in I mean how Trump wants to move on uh and actually implement all these policies like you said banking get the budget going healthcare fix it right um uh what do you call military fix it? I mean they're they're firing on all cylinders. They're not getting any credit.

Okay. So here's my point, right, Sam? I I know you like to talk about the the left media and the right media and the the mainstream media. The thing is if you're trying to do a good job, okay, so okay, let let me reverse a little bit, right? There's two kinds of um philanthropy in this world. The co the silent kind and then the the one who loves the headlines, right? My point is this. If Trump is doing if if Trump's heart is in the right place, which I think it is generally speaking, right? And his job, his desire is to fix America. Well, do you need the mainstream media to be crowing about it

and to be looking for the headlines? And people accuse him of being a a media right? But you you if if your if your desire is to fix your country and you are actually directionally at least fixing your country, shouldn't that be enough?

Why why do you need the main? Why do you need CNN and ABC and MSN? Do you know what I mean, right? I know. But I I I because you've only got what this term and that's it. You can't do anymore. He's he's one year into his term.

I think the thing is there's a few things that uh that that is happening in the media landscape in America actually. Um uh and and I think it's it's it's going it's it's already turning to a certain way. I don't know how much or how fast. But why I want to bring up this subject because um I think this the the two things that has become uh to me such a propaganda u that that makes it cuz at the end of the day you get you still need voters to come out and vote

but he's already got his political goodwill. He's already in your office. That's true. But you got a midterm coming. He's doing the job. Correct. appropriate, right? You got the midterms coming. Okay, next year. Okay. All right. You got the midterms still coming.

Okay. As you point out, ruling party always loses. What happens after that? What are the political repercussions? This is where you don't administration. Well, when as you can see, even with the House and the Senate in their favor at the moment, they can't completely uh pass the budget, right? So imagine if you've got a stalemate where actually you lose the house which is very possible right so and this is where I want to actually bring up not just for our own interest but also to actually talk why I wanted to talk about January 6. I really want to

make a mention of January 6. Okay. The reason is not just how it affects the ma mindset of the voters but also for us who lives outside the bubble of America and listening to all this mainstream talking about January 6 as an insurrection.

Okay, that actually colors the thinking of the voter. One of the things I hear that they say, "Oh yeah, January 6 was a bad thing that Trump did blah blah blah." my my uh point on that and I want to give a perspective on that actually. Okay. And then start off and say this is why things are happening. Okay. Because it is a coordinated attempt to actually fail this administration. January 6 being termed as an insurrection is a joke. You and I live in this side of the world. All right. You've got a protest after of about let's say 2,00 2,500 people going to Capitol Hill, right?

Some of the videos even show the cops opening the door for them to come in. Some of them climbing the stairs. I mean on I mean looks like uh a bunch of uh uh uh you know a bunch of apes going up you know side of stairs right uh but the whole thing is for us that's a that's that's a day in a protest that's not an insurrection if you want to know what an insurrection looks like America come to Indonesia we'll show you how Makasa parliament get burned down come to Thailand and see a military coup. Okay, go to Nepal and see how they burn down Parliament and they pull the prime

minister out and kick him out into the uh into the river and I think they burn down, if I'm not mistaken, they actually burn down his wife alive. That, ladies and gentlemen, is a bloody insurrection. Okay. What we saw in in in January 6 is a protest against an electoral result that they felt was a uh a sham. Now the question is this, right? People must be allowed to protest even if they go to Capitol Hill, right?

Pillar of democracy. Yes, it's a pillar of democracy. What is the big deal? So the point is, but the way the media and not just the media, the political elite talk about it and they actually even used that in one of the federal cases to actually try to put Trump in prison. Well, let me tell you as a member of the media, I used to be a member of the mainstream media. I actually worked for them as well,

right? Not just one but multiple platforms. Okay. um when the media lose their focus and lose their the real reason for their existence, they will lose their audience. And we're talking about America here. America is 350 million people and it's the richest country in the world, probably the most educated in the world, right? I've been to America and I've spoken to cab drivers and bus conductors. My god, have they got a point of view, right? Um is it enough for them to be colored their judgment to vote the wrong way at the midterms? Perhaps. I don't know. But when you look

at Trump and what his team are trying to do to write America's wrongs and I think the one of the biggest wrongs is the financial situation, right? And they're trying to do this on three fronts. They're trying to do it do it do this with tariffs. They're trying to do this with trade and they're trying to do this with deregulation. It takes time to come in, right?

So my point is is if Trump does what he says he's going to do and is continuing to do so, there will be more money in people's pockets and people will be happier. And that is the real litmus test of how people will vote in the coming midterms. Not what they read necessarily, but how much money they have to spend. And the latest um spending numbers, the latest uh retail numbers show it's correct. It's up it's it's it's on the right direction. And then when the Federal Reserve does cut interest rates, borrowing costs for cars will go down. Borrowing costs for houses

will go down. And then people can put their money to good use and they'll be happy. At the end of the day, people are happy when they've got money to spend and food to buy and they can look after their children and their wives. That's it. It's as simple as that.

So then is it are they are they going to vote based on what they read on Facebook or or or whatever Instagram or Twitter or will they vote based on their wallets? I think they're going to bas vote based on their wallets.

I don't I don't disagree. Right. No, I I don't disagree. I mean, we've already talked about that. We're a year and a bit. We are a year and a bit from from midterms, right? And what has he done in the last 10 months? ton of stuff.

Yeah, he's done a lot. I mean, I think right now he's booking 30 30 35 billion dollars in tariff revenues a month alone. That's all right, isn't it? It's all right. They're paying. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean I I

I don't care about the media anymore. Sam, no. No. I I used to work for them. I don't even read them anymore because they're full of And I don't consider myself to be exceptionally smart or any any different from from the next guy. I only brought the matter up is because I think I want to address from outside the bubble of what actually until today actually it's not that I'm concerned about the media.

I'm telling I'm I'm telling our audience. Yeah. Um basically I just find that the word insur actually yeah when of course nobody nobody even died except for one person who is a protester. I know

right. So, but the fact that you and I talking about it, we're amplifying the wrong. So, if it's amplify the wrong I am trying to actually I'm trying to I'm trying to let the audience see outside of the bubble what people outside I mean I felt this way when I first saw

the u when I first saw the coverage on January 6 itself. Yeah. I thought I I was laughing. I was literally laughing because the word was being used was an insurrection and I'm like dude you guys don't know what an insurrection looks like.

Well, actually by definition in in an insurrection is a display of um in violent man in a violent manner your disagreement with the government overthrow.

Yes. But it doesn't say how many people. So by definition, if you and I were to have were to mount a violent demonstration to overthrow Ano and Co, it would be an insurrection because there's more than one person. Right? So I mean, come on. I think

the the the at the end of the day, America is a country of 350 million people. Oh, I mean here's the thing that I think I I I I want to put I mean basically underline on that um that for our audience is that if you talk about insurrection uh January 6 being insurrection my my take on it from the outside looking in uh tell them that it's a load of and uh you know

I think people already know that what they're reading not really no I would say No, now I would say half of it actually, especially even the moderate left, right, still see January 6 and even the moderate right still see that gen what happened in January 6 as one of the worst thing in America. You must understand that and that is what I'm trying to put I'm trying to pin this balloon and say that dude

you mean prick the balloon so they goes poo poo that this idea of calling it an insurrection Yeah. Is the biggest joke the rest of the world sees,

okay? Stop it. Okay, you're making a fool of yourselves, right? That's what I'm trying to say, you know, because we've never had the time to comment on it because when we started the podcast, that has already passed, you know? So, I'm just like, "Hey, dude, stop it already." you know, yeah,

you've already tried lawfare on on this guy even after he left and and after he left office, you know, they they they hit him with at least five cases that I can think of where, you know, it's basically a coordinated attack uh to ensure that he's either bankrupted or put in jail so that Trump cannot run for the presidency.

Okay. And I've studied all the five cases. Yeah, you know, it's it's equivalent to us uh bringing a pillow uh to the court case, you know, and saying that there was uh sodomy being committed,

you know, and that's the evidence. That's what happened with all of Trump's lawfare actually. So I think we I I don't want to go into into that you know at this particular time unless we have some time on that right because um you know um the the cases would just rec I mean I just take one case for as an example just one case that I saw Pritsker I believe who wants to run for president for for the presidency on the Democrat side calling him a felon a convicted felon Right. Do you know how how how how ridiculous is that case?

Right. Basically, they did mental they did legal gymnastics to actually uh made the statute. But the point the point is this. It's it's all water under the bridge, right? It's water under the bridge. He's he's he was never convicted, right? Despite the number of cases he

did, that's why they call him a committed felon. Okay. Okay. Okay. By definition, right, he did serve whatever time, right? He didn't. He was convicted. Okay. But the point is what? Because he's on appeal.

Sorry. Because he's on appeal. He was on appeal. I think he's on appeal. Uh on appeal. Okay. But but my point is he's now where he is. He's heading this administration in America. He's now the president. Yeah.

He's 9 months into the job. He's done what he's done. The point is this. I think we should always whether or not you look at Malaysia or America, right? We should always look to the future. That's the most important time frame to me. And he's doing what he can at this age to take America out of its problems. And that's that's a good thing, right?

And you can say the same thing with the whole crypto industry as well when under the Biden administration, the crypto industry was held captive and they were actually uh ring fenced in the innovation efforts by um you know the SEC at the time,

by Gary Gensler, right? M but now what have they done in the last 10 months they've gone gang busters so the thing is when they've been unshackled like Trump has been unshackled amazing progress has been made the crypto industries in the last 10 months has been amazing uh strides ahead so the point is what what do we have to look out for for the next 12 24 36 months the remaining 3 to four years of the Trump tenure I'm really excited I think that under his tenure unless something untoward happens and you know what I mean by that right unless unto it something unto it happens

I think the next three or four years is going to be incredible right and I think people should position themselves for it whether or not you're getting some financial assets whether or not like you you're doing business in America right and you can see he's contrary to what a lot of pe a lot of people think his policy is very very clear he's always been transparent about his policies and he's communicated that really well and his members of his governments are extremely transparent right look at how Mar Rubio was always in the press look at how Scott Bess is always in the

press. It's incredible. The amount of disclosure that they're putting through to the world at large is unbelievable. Look at how he hires his people. Caroline Levit is incredible. And she's just inverted comments is just the press secretary,

right? I'm really excited. I think there's there's really nothing to to to lament about this administration. I'm really excited. I I think I we are not in disagreement on that. Um my purpose actually on in this smogous board of of of issues I just wanted to touch

on uh on on things we've never discussed before. Yeah. Right. Uh that um actually was a a big item and still is because I do follow

u a lot on the news. Yeah. Um and then whether we like it or not, the mainstream news in America has a lot of influence in two things. Um one uh in the middle of the country or the middle voters still watch the mainstream media. Okay, number one. Number two, um the mainstream media are the source of um uh is is the source code for our mainstream media, right? Which then gives the impression to the global community of how America, this presidency is performing. And that has an impact on how our governments and our people react to such information.

Yeah. Okay. It does have an impact. Okay. Um uh and even in domestic uh voting. Okay. Um and these two issues I think has never been addressed by the American by even uh the

January 6 and which two issues for me January 6 and the the laware on Donald Trump. Okay. Because I've never seen this happen. All right. January 6. If even when you listen and I listen to middle of the road um uh alternative media, okay, u one of my most respected journalist uh you know I've mentioned Mark Halperin before, okay, Mark Kpran basically talks about January 6 as if it is one of the worst thing that happened in America. All right. Even other means middle of the road uh media maker uh alternative voices says the same thing. And I want and and I wish I could get on their program and

tell them guys wake up. You know you are lying to the American uh to the American audience because you yourself it's not that they purposely lie because you yourself has got this idea that has been fed to you that this is an insurrection. Dude, you want to really see how insurrections look like, right? Come to Jakarta. We will show you right. You know, you know, actually when I saw the the the uh uh um the January 6 protest, which I call a protest, right? It's not that much more different than our bers protest.

Oh, bur is a lot of people. It's a lot more than January 6. I guarantee you, right? It's a lot more than January 6. And they had water cannon coming out either as well, right?

Okay. But every democracy if you don't like the election result, you must allow them to protest even if they go to parliament to protest. No, that's fine. Right. In fact, if you if you ask me, right, one of the things that I don't understand is for example, why did Gore considered the election to Bush? I don't get it because if you believe that there's been manipulation, if you believe that actually there should be a recount, let the court judge it, that there should be a recount done. So to me to say that a a president a prime minister must concede when there is still room for you to argue.

Go ahead. That's democracy, you know. So this whole I and then they make a a big hoo-ha out of it and 2,000 people a thousand plus people were put in jail, you know. Can you imagine they pick you up? I know how it is because I've had friends who are in the NGO uh community, our own NGO communities, right? Our good friend like City Casem, right? You know, just gets picked up on some, you know, because why? Because they have the power as the police to actually pick you up, put you in jail. Then these are normal people. they don't have the money to to hire big- time lawyers to get you out

immediately, you know. So, all this, I think, must be put into perspective. So, all I'm saying when I'm I'm going to end my rant on this January 6 in the sense that, hey guys, shut the up.

Okay, January 6 is nothing. Okay, be realistic. It's a nothing burger. All right? And the fact that people were jailed for it, it's uh uh I I mean when BLM, Antifa were burning uh were burning buildings, you know, Tesla's being burned, nobody is jailed.

You know, it is somehow quite appropriate that you're talking like this with a cowboy, you know, enough. You know, I think I think the middle of the road media need to stop uh uh uh to stop uh propagating this idea that January 6 was an insurrection. For me, one of the best thing that Trump did was to actually uh uh what do you call pardon everybody that was involved in generations? didn't invoke the insurrection act because there is such a legislation I think dating from 100 years ago that exists he can he can actually trigger that

no Biden could have triggered it yeah why did he well you know you and I know the reasons why yeah because they don't have the proof for it yeah so I well I mean that's just a little trivial you know he could have easily invoked it he didn't right

we didn't yeah because it wasn't an insurrection it wasn't in the insurrection and you know I keep telling people when they keep mentioning that Trump told his guys, uh, go and find me, uh, a few hundred thousand more votes.

Yeah, dude, I've been a businessman. I've told my people, all right, go and find me two more million revenue. That doesn't mean I'm telling these people to go and steal money and actually or or or make up uh numbers and and book into the account 2 million sales. I said, go and find me 2 million sales. Was it Wells Fargo? Well Fargo did that, right?

You know, so you know how words are manipulated because of their main intent from the other from the leftist uh leaning media to actually paint everything Trump as being uh un uh uh what do you call undemocratic, a threat to democracy, right? This is what they doing. And they did the thing same thing with all the lawfare that they did. Okay, including the felony charges. Let me tell you just a quick one on the felony charge uh that I think it was Elvin Brag that brought it in New York um which is the Stormmy Daniels uh hush money paid to the lawyer.

Okay. Now, number one, statute of limitations was already out. Number two, it's actually a misdemeanor. It's not even a a felon a felony a felony charge. All right. But

Stormy Daniels the porn star. Exactly. What happened to that case? No, you you suh sa what happened to that case? What happened to that case? In the case. So basically what he did is all right

by the way she's or depend on your taste. Yeah. It's not my taste. Depend on your taste. Maybe for you or your I don't know. I I I don't know. So, so the thing is the the thing is so he he paid her through his lawyer, right? Okay. So, and that is pay and and that's recorded as payment for for services,

right? Now the most if you're going to do a mental gymnastic on it is you say I'm going to charge you on uh u on on on uh falsifying uh accounting records right not putting it very clearly what it was for.

Okay. Instead they did it they made it into a felony charge as being um a violation of um uh election uh disclosure. Okay. because he was running for the presidency and therefore because if this had come out then actually it would have been negative publicity for him and therefore he tried to tried to uh not disclose this payment as part of his campaign.

Okay. So that's so that is just how much of a stretch it was and not just that the statute of limitation was also uh over. So there's so many things wrong with that case and he was convicted and that becomes a felony. So now you got JD Pritsker who's going to probably run uh against people. I don't know whether he's going to get to he's so fat, you know. I don't know whether he's going to run for the uh uh uh he's going to win the nomination. Okay.

You say he's fat. Is it? Huh? He's fat. Yeah, he's a fat Okay. So he can't run. He can definitely run. He definitely cannot run. It was a very funny thing. He was talking about Chicago, right? And was saying, "Oh, our numbers in Chicago are down. Uh, our crime numbers are Chicago and down." And the camera panned to the building behind him and guess what building it was?

Trump building. So anyway, so you know, I mean, these are the talking points that actually gets my, you know, really gets my, you know, Yeah. You know, I mean the Maraago case on the valuation is another one. You know, it all these are so coordinated. It has never happened in America really to the extent that it did where actually they tried to bankrupt a presidential candidate. They tried to put him in jail as a presidential candidate because they were so scared of him to run.

Right. And I think enough of this January 6, enough of this felon. Hey guys in the middle. I'm telling the guys in the middle.

It's a joke. You make yourself look stupid. Yeah. You know. Yeah. So then I I we can move on. Then you can move on. Um I think moving on. I've done my rat. I've died. I needed to let that out.

You know, for a guy um let's just say of your vintage, right? Uhhuh. Vintage. What does that mean? That that could there is a few interpretation of that. You're not an 18year-old, you know, very impassioned young man anymore, right? Let's just say, right?

Um I mean, for me anyway, in my age, and my vintage now, I allow very age. There you're going vintage on age. Okay. I allow very little to bother me now, you know, because at the end of the day, what is it? It's a few printed words on the screen, right? Why do I let it insense me so much? I don't I try not to, you know,

I I I think it's for me um it's it's not for me personally. Uh I'm But it is though because you're you're very passionate about it. I'm I'm passionate about the issue because why? Because I do engage with uh with Americans. I engage with my friends. I uh I engage even with uh in in in in sometimes direct indirect way with their media personalities to a certain extent where I could right and

I I've stopped correcting people. It's not about correcting people. I've I it's about it's about putting on record um my point of view. That's all.

Yeah. Actually, I don't even care whether people know my point of view anymore. I just I just get on with my business. Wow. You know, maybe that's on the personal life. Yeah. Maybe 10 years ago I would have been very different. I would have just said no, you know this, you know that. But now it don't bother. You know why?

Because to me um um let's just say progress or for me personal advancement right is based on information asymmetry. I think that the more one knows and the more one has of perspective then one can benefit from it first before the next guy does. Well, I think you know what I mean by that, right? I know. I think the the

So, if you if you want to, if you're stupid and you chase, you choose to stay stupid, well, then you deserve your lot in life. Simple, right? I I think um and if you still read junk media and you you act on junk media, well then you deserve to be poor, right?

You know, you know what happens? I I give you an example, right? Um between the years of 2009 and 2018, right? um when America was actually going through quite a lot of pain, right? And um a lot of what what they started to call quantitative easing, right? Um and and central banks bailing out zombie companies and things like that, right? The way the press portrayed that whole era was that America was going to go to the shits and financial markets will crash and then people would lose their pens, right? So, as a result, I I didn't do anything. I didn't invest. I stayed

out of markets. I just didn't deploy anything right but that nine years was the most profitable for financial market returns in history by a measure by some measure right then I realized okay so this is the downside of just taking things at face value go and do some reading go and profit from it and don't behave like the crowd so that's my policy today so the thing is if you now read the press and you think this guy's a bit of a buffoon and this and that well then look at where you are in life and you deserve to be where you I think you know what I mean, right? True.

And that's people we've talked about intellectual honesty before, right? We've talked about people's propensity to learn before. And if they don't have that, well, oh, I I mean it's a it's a bit different from um what we're trying to do here, which is basically

correct. But the point I'm trying to make is that if you read something and you know in your heart of hearts and you see TV, you've seen social media about it, right? You will see a lot of young kids, you know, jumping over the stairs at Capitol Hill and then you look at yourself and is this an insurrection? No, it's not, right? And then you make up your mind.

But but but what what I'm trying to put at is actually I think I think it needs to be said from a point of view that uh that is uh not um that is from outside the bubble

uh that sees it from a different perspective. I want it on record. Um and um I think it's for our audience more than for us. Um and um and I think that's that um and after that if you still can't see that that tough luck.

Well message to audience essentially where I'm concerned is that do your own thinking. Don't read don't take as gospel what you read in the press. It's not always right. Unfortunately, unfortunately 90% of uh human beings um take what they read. So our purpose is actually to provide an alternative viewpoint um that actually will tinkle their mind and say okay hold on they're making sense here you know maybe I should think about it slightly differently okay or maybe I should think about it differently and then look around and see whether what they're saying is true. So that's basically what

uh pane what is the objective of what we are doing in unpacking all these issues right for our purposes you and I know I mean we we we are we we we are

well as you said we are vintage right um and and and we've been around the block and hence actually why we are talking the way we are talking so this is we are talking more for purposes of our audience and unpacking it on their behalf and having them look at it from our point of view which is completely different like my favorite word from Montipython.

Yeah. And now for something completely different. You know what I'm really afraid of actually Simon that's the reason why I'm smiling right is because maybe the matrix that we're in and this is this essentially they're just matrixes right matrices right

right that conventional line of thinking about it being an insurrection is one matrix we're providing another matrix but what if our matrix is wrong as well there's another matrix above us oh god don't go there my lord

I just I don't know right who's the no I don't know right you you write science fiction know Right. And that's why it's called fiction. All right. You know, that's why it's called fiction. Let's move to um um let's move to another aspect. I think if you uh if if if you look at it right um the what what other um areas I I I really want to go back to I I want to go back to healthcare quickly actually. Right. I don't understand one thing though. Let me ask you a question. Maybe you are more aware of it than I am.

Yeah. Right. Um I think I think America need to disband its whole its whole health care system. I think the Medicare Medicaid uh system somehow in my opinion does not work. The premiums are too expensive. Um and if I look at um I mean they obviously are the leading edge in terms of research in healthcare but you know when you talk about the leading edge that's less than 5% of what the population needs the other part that I see about uh health care uh from the traditional health care which we ourselves adopted in in in our own country or even in Asia

right which is um we do which is we don't address the uh uh the root cause. We basically address the symptoms. And the symptoms is basically uh oh, you got an ailment, you got a symptom, here's the pill for it.

Here the drugs. Yeah. Here's the drugs for it. You pay for the drugs. Oh, you got to do this. Oh, here's the surgery for it. Okay. In fact, if you look at it, I just found out that, you know, a child in America actually uh has to take something like 80 plus vaccines.

Yeah. The average American spends a lot on pills, prescriptions. How how many vaccines do we take when we were a kid? Quite a lot. Actually, three or four, right? Three or four? Four or five?

At most less than 10. I know for sure less than 10, right? Why the hell are you giving uh your people 85? Do you remember during co and uh we had this guy Fouchi in charge, right?

Yeah. Um the the health director, right? Did America? Yeah. And I never recall him once telling America or even telling people because it was he was having daily press conferences, right? He never told people to go out and exercise, you know, stay healthy, build up your immune system, spend time in the sun, right? He never said any of that. He just said, "Go and get vaccinated. Otherwise, you can't go here. You can't go there."

And that's the root cause of America's problems. And as you say, even the hardcore poor, they go to the They go to Kmart. What do they buy? They're buying junk food. By buy junk food. They're drink they're drinking soda, right? How many Americans are obese in America? A ton.

Yeah. Look at the amount they eat. What do you eat? Exactly. So, it's a quantity and quality both. It's a double X, right? And so, you're right. Um I I don't know why um the government isn't but RFK is starting to do that right. Um,

I mean they too, if I look at it, they're two. And he's a he's a he's a he's a great example of being healthy even at an older age, right? He's in his 70s now, mid70s, dude. The guy is he's in incredible condition, right?

Um, why do we never have this? The pharmaceutical lobby should be dismantled. There's too they're too powerful. Yeah. How much testing did they do on COVID vaccines? Nothing. Maybe a year when actually the the life actually the the the guinea pigs that to be vaccinated. Otherwise, you can't go here, you can't go there, you can't get a food, and you can't get food in the restaurant.

Today, it's it's already proven that it actually cause heart problems. I got friends with significant illnesses now who directly attributed to the vaccine drugs.

In fact, some who have passed away whose family members say it was because of the vaccines. No, if I were to look at my overall, it it basically anecdotal to me personally, so to speak, but I've heard other people. It's the the what I saw was very simple. Most of the people that died has got uh uh uh what do you call uh pre-existing conditions that make their immune system worse. Um I know people who had cancer that was on chemo who passed away.

Um I um but almost everybody even the slightly obese friends that I have survived that you know and actually if you look at it right um I took the vaccines because I I needed to travel. I took two.

Um I took three. You took three. Okay. You're dumber than I am. Okay. I'm sorry. The first two were were compulsory. I think the third one you could bypass it, right? No, the the third one it was uh it was not compulsory.

Oh, was it? Yeah. Sorry. The first two compulsory. The third was not. And I still stupidly took the third. Yeah. Believing that it was the right thing to do. No, I don't. Yeah. No, what I didn't like even when I was taking it is first thing when they shove me the uh the paperwork that says I I

absolve all responsibility. Yeah. They wave. the hell, right? hell, man. That's so You force me to take it. Yeah. And then I'm forced to wave my right if and if that thing cost me

my life. My Yeah. Whatever. You know, it affects my life. If I don't do this, I can't go here. I can't go. I can't take flight. I can't even go back to my hometown. Forget about it. Don't you think that was a good business model?

Fantastic. Yeah. Global market instantly. Instant global market, right? And you know what was one of the worst thing that he he he uh I I think to me you know

when they say oh you need to mask because then you don't transmit or when you take the vaccine you will not be transmitted. It's a total utter lie. It's not even a conspiracy theory. is a total utter lie

that the d the the the the the Fouchi is dead. I mean, how can you be so blatant if you are a doctor to actually lie to the American people and we took that lie ourselves here?

Yeah. You know, well, you know what, right? My resting base assumption now whenever I read something in the press whether here or abroad and the government is the source of the information I immediately take the opposite meaning

immediately. Immediately if they say black I'm going to say it's going to be white. If they say north I'm going to go south. That's my resting base assumption. Yeah unless proven otherwise. Well, well, you see, here's the here's the problem in America because the lobby is so rich, you know, I mean, and they have such a strangle hold insurance, uh, healthcare, health management, and farmer. Do you know how many uh big farmer uh farmer pharmaceutical uh advertisement I was watching when I was looking at the football game? I think every four advertisement is a um

one in four. One in four. Yeah, I think one in four is a pharmaceutical. And I'm I'm not just that. I was listening to it and I'm saying I don't even know this medicine. What is the hell is this? You know, and it's like why do you need this,

you know? So they are prescribing, they are going to the doctors and actually it's incentivized the doctor to actually prescribe you these medicines, you know. So it is a whole industry and Congress is being paid to actually speak on their behalf. So, how the hell is a president really going to fix? Because there are two things RFKJ can actually fix in terms of mindset, you know, they are going to put back the uh the the presidential physical test. Um where uh in schools um I mean that's one way which is to look at diet to look at exercise etc. But when it comes to when you have

an illness that cause or or or a medical problem, that's a different story alto together. And that's where the kaching comes in. Of course, the other part actually allows you not to go and have to spend if you're healthy,

right? But sometimes you have to go, right? And that's where they're printing money like nobody's business. And they're not they only have to come and look at Singapore and Malaysia, right? Even our our our medical system, right? We have a problem. I can tell you now today, which I don't understand, we can pay our doctors 10 times more and our medical system and our our our medical uh uh uh hospitals would be built even better. But then we spent 200 million sending money to Palestine.

That's sensitive ground by the way. Okay. Right. All right. And they call it a flirtillaa. Right. Use the the use of terminology is so powerful. Right. It's not just aid. It's a flirtillaa. It's like a I'm here to save you, you know.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. But look at our you know but actually we have effectively free medical care, right? Our doctors are complaining but to be honest if we don't have so much wastage we could easily pay them 10 times more so that they won't run away to Singapore and I went to Singapore I look at my cousin was uh uh was admitted right and uh and I look at their public hospitals

incredible incredible it looks like our private hospital I mean experts coming to Malaysia on expert salary They go to our private hospitals, right? And they laugh at the bill. Literally laugh at the bill. I was telling my American friends,

you should not do that. Come on. It's so expensive nowadays. Are you mad? Insurance premiums have been going through the roof in Malaysia. 20 30% for the last 10 years. I know. Because again, as I keep saying, our country are always 10 years behind or 15 years behind. And we followed the same model of what America was doing which is to insert HMO company between the uh the the the the medical practitioner and the client. You want to get something done with the hospital now even with your insurance, right?

You got to wait. It has to get you got to wait. Wait because it has to be approved, you know? So, you know, and it cost a lot of money, of course. And not just that, if I want to have uh I mean we're talking about private right now, right? Okay. And and I wanted to have uh you know my wife admitted immediately. Okay. Because I don't want her to be standing right. So to so you know what I had to do I pay first

before the insurance made the approval. Nuts. It never happened before. M so what all you are doing is putting out another bloated layer of bureaucracy you know into the healthare system and actually that's the one that is costing money without any added value.

Well you know what they say right in especially in this country the two most important industries where people are concerned is not just the healthcare is education and they've both been hijacked by corporate interests right hijacked. Yeah.

Hijacked my my cousin who died maybe 15 years ago, right? He had an aneurysm and I think he was in his late 30s or early 40s, right? He he was already deep into the throws of this thing, right? You you know what an aneurysm is, right? It attacks your brain, right? And he was lying on a journey outside Subang Medical Center, not being admitted before we could produce evidence of payment. And my credit card and my auntie's credit card, I think my credit card limit at the time was like 5,000 ringit. Hers is like 3,000 ringgit. Do you know how how much they wanted deposited?

75,000. This is like 15 years ago. Luckily for me, my uncle who was a corporate bigwig who did have 100,000 credit limit. He turned up but two hours later by the time it was too late.

They literally killed him literally. But then all doctors, what do they do when they go through medical school? They take the hypocratic oath which is what? You swear to help your fellow human beings because you've got a skill and you can save lives. But they don't do that anymore.

Yeah. No, I that's the truth. Yeah. I mean, do you remember Trump part one 2016? He went out, he said, "All all of you are murderers." He remember the time he said it, right? And the whole healthcare sector plunged because what do fund managers do? They sell first asked questions later, right?

So they sold the whole sector down. Everybody had come out. Andrew Witti from GSK came out. Everybody in Novatis all came out. Lily all came out. Right. And this is the fact. But he was right. Trump was right. You're murderers. I think this is where um I I go to the Trump derangement syndrome. I was talking last night to a bunch of Americans and I was like I said I don't f over Trump. I just like I just I evaluate policies and I see the policies and how he does thing and what he saying. Sometimes he you know sometimes he can be a bit crass when he say things. his delivery

mechanism can be more statesman like but what has states like got us right what what Obama got us right absolutely so the whole point is actually I mean the whole point I mean look at the look at the optics never judge a book by its cover

yeah look at the optics look at this optics that we put on our thumbnail on the uh on the on the previous episode we deliberately put that thumbnail of Trump in the Oval Office with BB Netanyahu Okay. The phone was on Trump's lap. Okay. And BB was on the phone calling uh the Qatari prime minister.

Okay. To apologize for the attack. And you look at Trump's face. Dude, that's not statesmanlike at all. But it delivers the message that America is in charge. right? That Israel, you better do what I say.

And don't play around with me. That's the leadership that America needs. You need a strong guy. Yeah. You need a strong guy with balls to push through, right? Yeah. And I can

And remember the last years of Biden's administration, he was already going he was already obviously demented, right? Senior, right? Obviously demented. he was forgetting his lines. I remember on morning on on Morning Joe, okay, before the election, before the debate. Yeah.

Okay. Uh he was saying this guy uh uh uh Joe Scabaro was saying that uh you know, I've talked to Trump. He's as sharp as attack as I ever seen in his life. And then the and then the debate with Trump came.

Yeah. And all the House of Carts fell. Yeah. You know, it's Yeah. Go on. I was I was in the mainstream media then. You were talking about the the the

Sleepy Joe, right? And he was obviously, you know, um let's just say all the marbles were not in the same basket by then. And and I've not heard anybody say that before. And hell, I was in the mainstream media then. Right. I was actually on air on radio. Right.

Right. And I was told to not talk about his dementia. Why? Because it was because they said I was uh I don't know. They were just self self-censoring, right? And I said, "Look, guys, watch him on TV. He's lost his marbles. He can't even force his own, you know, formal sentences, right? Forgetting his lines, fluffing his his cues, right?" No, no, no. You cannot talk about it. It's not right. He's the president. It's disrespectful.

Were you in were you in London at that time or were you here? Lumpa, Malaysia, Right. And I was like, this man is the leader of the free world. He's a president of the United States, the richest country in the world. and we follow their policies very closely. If they up, we up. Doesn't that mean anything to you? And that was the mainstream media, my friend. Why do you think I left?

And you know what I mean? I I know. I know. Can I can I can I close this because we've gone through a a jumbalaya of issues, right? And I hope our audience stay on. I mean, to hear all of it, you know, because we we went through some issues. Some may interest you, some may not. But I I I want to I want to close it on this point of view um which is um the world really need America's leadership and actually uh imperial power. Let me put it in this regard. All right. Why I say that? Because never in history has a democracy um been in charge of ensuring um market economy to

to prosper around the globe by protecting shipping lanes, by protecting trade, by ensuring that actually um as much uh peace is achieved now and I think the Trump era is already uh rising in the sense that in my opinion uh the days of I I am throwing the book away on previous history of neocon establishment uh previous history of uh actually corporate globalist establishment um and uh regime change and what not of either the CIA or the deep state in the Pentagon or whatever. Those days are gone. What you've got today is the template of a businessman president who

is transactional to ensure that economy and peace goes along and growth. My only concern is that he because he's quite old and uh my only concern is he stays healthy.

Yeah. And or the fact that he is not taken up. Yeah. You know. Yeah. I know. I know. That is the biggest that is the biggest taken out. All bets are off. Vans are no Vans. I mean Vans is a good guy, but he's

he's no Donald Trump. He's no Donald Trump. Yeah. Yeah. I do hope that actually um this next these four years is a mentorship uh for JD Vance. Um and I think this guy has got the pedigree and for those who wants a bit more statesmanlike, I think Vance can provide that. Uh he can talk mugger and still be a little bit more statesmanlike. And I think the guy coming from uh you know he was raised by a single mother.

Have you have you read his book allergy to a child? I saw the movie. I saw the movie. My I mean I I don't know how much were hardcore poor. Correct. And for him to go from that to actually um I think what Yale Law

Y Law Yeah. And um and married an Indian girl. Yeah. Who's a who who's a lawyer too? No slouch herself. Yeah. I mean no Indian girl is going no Indian girl of that pedigree is going to marry you if you are not going to bring

let's just say quality Asian girls always marry up they never marry down and when they marry up they marry much higher up yeah yeah so we all know that right so we can attest to you guys American that Indian girl doesn't marry JD Benz because you know he because he's dumb that ain't going to happen my friend Okay. And the other thing is um I think I think if Trump uh hopefully Trump finishes the term and finishes it with a flourish, I hope so because I've always said that uh economic results tend to happen 12 to 18 months after implementation. However, the fact that

the tariffs that was implemented almost immediately has been managed in such a way that we see minimal inflation. Um it's already testament because why they were cutting uh federal workers. So definitely jobs are not going to come in immediately. Um investments that are committed are not going to be uh deployed immediately either and then once it deployed it needs to actually be uh implemented. So all those takes 12 to 16 months 18 months down the road. So I think I I I I don't want to see uh a loss. In fact, I want to see a gain in the House and the Senate for the

Republicans. The reason is because they are on the right track and for the for for global growth uh and a a rebalancing of all the economics that will push even nations that are not doing the right policy. Okay, I'm not going to name the countries, right?

I just hope Malaysia gets rid of this stupid ESG Right. It may take you 12 to 18 months to see it through, but hell, just do it, right? Stupid. I mean, let's put I mean, can you imagine Bank Nagara, right? Think about it. Okay. 20% of our GDP is oil and gas. Get the banks to support the industry.

No, it's very simple, right? If you want to grow, you need energy. Yeah. And reliable consistent energy fossils and we need cheap financing for it. Amount of solar or hydro or biomass is going to get you the amount that we need consistently. No.

Come on. Right. And it's too expensive even when it is produced in overabundance by the Chinese. And if you want to see how badly it can go, look at your friends in France, France, Germany, and the UK.

Wake up because it's going to be too late for us. Okay. Okay. Okay. What's next? That coming up down the pipe. Coming down the pipe. I think uh you're looking at a guest. We're going to go and talk back. We're going to try and get a guest. Yeah. I I think we should be going back to um uh what has happened to the uh to all the tariffs discussion and and the results because I've seen movements in Mexico. I've seen the um

the ones leaving Mexico for America. Sorry, that's a bad joke. No, we we we we have to relook back at the economy because why? as you rightly put, I mean the at the end of the day when you look at the midterms um the economy is going to matter.

Of course, always does. It always does. So where where is the economic and the tariff situation is at the moment and how it has landed so far. Um I think we need to do that. Um I also that includes China and their threats on uh uh on withholding the rare minerals. Um so I think those are issues that I would love to talk to if we can get a guest as we are trying to plan that will u go into um uh all this economic uh discussion. Uh I think that's a good uh that's a good topic um at this point I believe in spite of we will keep track of the Israeli Palestinian uh issue. I

think that's um uh that's one big uh uh one big question. I know the Ukraine situation has been on the back burner for a while but I don't think

oh they're still fighting just that they can they're getting less column ines right now because of other things right but I'm sure they're still fighting. Well, but they you know what um there goes with the trade as well. I mean one of the reason why India got uh tariff of uh 50%. Is because of the purchase of the Russian oil.

Yeah. Right. So there are many facets to and that that goes again to what I've always said this Trump administration is firing on all cylinders on every issue actually they are coordinating because all issues are so interconnected you know and it takes a lot to unpack all this for our audience.

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