Failed 2 Term Vote & Why Critical Thinking Malaysians Need to Topple the System

Welcome back to the Gutshot podcast. I'm Shamsul Sam, your host. We are back today with my friend, old buddy, SITI KASIM. WE WE GOT a quite a bit to talk about. Yeah. We going to be I think we we going to lead it with the field two-term votes and then we need to analyze and deep dive into what we feel. We've been talking about this quite some time, Siti. Yeah. About how the savior of Malaysia is going to come from the non-Malays and a minor minority portion of Malays who are critical thinkers. But with that in mind, before we start, I'd like to I would like to ask our viewers to

who has not yet subscribed, please subscribe. Get a lot more people to watch this podcast, Gutshot, so that we can spread critical thinking of what is happening and how we should improve where we are at today in our own country. Don't forget to like. Yeah, because that will, you know, boost the the algorithm. Yeah, the channel as well. Yeah. Yep. Thank you. So, let's get to the point. Here's the thing that let's lead with this. Recently, the government um proposed a bill to the to parliament to limit the two-term for the prime minister. Yes. And it as far as I'm concerned it uh it was uh

it was an interesting failure, to say the least. And you'll understand why we say this interesting failure. Um Siti Mhm. I'd like you to comment what exactly uh you know, because it was made to have such a huge and and promotion of being a reform bill, right? And then it went through with a whimper and it came out with nothing. Right. Yeah, they What what happened there and what Where are all the so-called reforms? Well, first of all this is my opinion, of course, you know. For me, it's merely performance to show to the public, especially the supporters of PH that they are trying to

do something. But it's just a show, you know, because if you notice this bill only comes up after they have lost spectacularly in Sabah and they notice that their popularity is diving. So, they have to show something, right? And because of DAP pressure as well, that's another story about DAP, but you know, DAP demanding some changes or some reform reforms. And so, they come up with this bill. For me, it's mere performance. It was never meant to pass. It's it's pre-planned. You think about it. Now, eight of the government block did not turn up, okay? For such an important

bill, surely you must have told your your reps, you know, in your block, "Make sure you come and because we really want this to to go through, right?" And they are short of two, okay? So, I mean seriously don't don't take us for fools. That's it. We can see through it. It's mere performance to show that at least they tried. They say, you know, but didn't get through because we didn't get the support from the opposition block. Forget about the opposition block, you know? I mean, at the end of the day, you are the government. You have more than what is needed to pass the bill through.

Two-third. But eight of your own MPs did not turn up. So, you know, we can see through you, basically. That's why I said yeah. I look at it actually when that happened. I almost like you know, I I want to I I I maybe I have a wicked sense of humor, but you know, it's I almost want to roll laughing because you know, it's on the on the one hand, on the other hand, I think for for our people, we should realize something in my opinion that actually is a big uh is a big finger, you know?

Oh, yes. It's a middle finger to the rakyat. It's a middle finger to the rakyat. It is basically a middle finger to the rakyat. What what they are telling you is you don't matter. We don't care about you. We just going to show and then uh well, screw you people. You know, you don't mean anything. We think we can bamboozle you because you're stupid. Yeah. That's basically it. They're telling us we are all morons. Yes. Basically, that's that's that's what it comes down to. They have no respect towards the people who voted them in. It's an insult to

our intelligence. You know, any person who has a modicum of intelligence can see through them. You know, that's why I'm not surprised in a way because um the leaderships, you know, I mean, Malaysian leaderships, they always want to stay in power forever if they can. This is why they will never allow this bill to go through. You know, Siti, just just something for people to understand, right? If you are in business or you you're in corporate, if you have a if you have an extraordinary general meeting, for example, for your corporation, that means you have a very

important resolution that has to pass. Before you go into the meeting, you've already counted your votes. You already ensured that the votes are there for you to hold a meeting and pass the resolution. The fact that that did not transpire just tell you they don't care. No, I I mean, how many government bills fail? Yeah. You know, I mean, think about it.

Right. As this such important bill which will chart the future of Malaysia so that no one will be in power forever like we had before and we have seen the consequences of people holding on to power for too long. You know, I mean, I don't even want to talk about the oppositions, you know. I have said this publicly. They are useless. They are brainless. So, don't count on them. But this government, you know, I mean, why are the eight missing? You know, they as I said before Where's the whip in parliament to ensure they are there? Yeah, well, as that's what I mean. That's what I think it was mere

performance just to show, "Oh, we tried, you know, but we didn't get it." Yeah, because you only short of two. You have eight. Actually, the other thing that that that that is so funny, right? I think that's part of the control of the media by the government. Because why? A bill like that that doesn't pass, it should have been a stinging review, a stinging criticism coming out of the media for weeks. Yeah. It just disappeared in coverage.

Yes. You know? It's not important. Gentlemen, ladies, you citizens of Malaysia, you are not important. You're just a bunch of morons as far as the politicians are concerned. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They take your votes for granted.

Yep. Yep. Because they they really think they are better than the opposition. us. Not just that. They're better So, they think we are going to keep voting for them because they think they are the better choice than

That we have no choice. That's the whole thing, Siti. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We have no choice, but what they say, better the devil you know. That's what they say. But you see, this this is a problem with our people, the rakyat. They they don't see they only see political parties. You know, they don't see last last election, how many independents stood? How many small parties stood? They don't even look at these people, you know? They only concentrate on the big parties, you know? I was told that, you know, they they said to me, "Because I'm an independent at that time, I was standing as an

independent." And they say, "Oh, Siti, we like what you do, you know, but we have to vote for PKR because only political parties can form a government." This is how the the mentality of our people, they don't understand, you know, that independents can become a block in our political parties as well. Yeah, but now

parties also can join a block. At the end of the day, you you have to you you you then force the government that has to be formed to listen to the people who voted these people in. Yeah. Otherwise, you keep getting like this. In fact, I think I don't have If you ask me, that is the most definitive proof that we have that our elected politician doesn't give a about us. Of course, they go to the parliament. Nice job, good pension.

You know, only a few will talk and the rest will go to sleep, okay? They never contribute. They never say anything as far as I know and I've seen. Um You know, it's just they just think it's just a cushy job, you know? Yeah, and then you You you get government so and then you get GLC position some more don't talk you don't get minister that is like I didn't realize that you know to be honest I was like What the hell are politicians sitting on company boards or company positions? And that's another one that they will never take it away you know that is another snake that we

must cut off the head of this you know this kind of politicians shouldn't be sitting on GLCs especially government GLCs yeah you know and in fact GLCs shouldn't exist.

WHY ARE THEY COMPETING WITH real businesses you know I mean this is crazy. Or or monopolizing THE BUSINESS AND COMPETITION. THAT'S WHY CORRUPTION comes in you know because they are trying to get favors from these politicians who are heading the GLCs you know to get business and you know there is no real competition for real businessmen and women out there I would cut off all these GLCs the government is not in the business doing business you know that's what I think.

Yeah well so now we we if we if we realize as a people that you know that they don't really care that they are just they they think we are all idiots and they take for granted our votes I think it's time to actually make a difference and and it's time to change the whole dynamics right? And this is where we were talking about this including Penny myself Said yourself and a number of people and we look at the This is the reality of of Malaysian demographics right? I think people don't realize you got to start somewhere. Right? And if you look at it people keep

asking me for example in this podcast why don't you talk in Malay so that you can get you know to the mass you know to the majority and all that I said I I think the problem that people don't realize is the people who are going to make change are the people who can think and the Malays who can think listen to this kind of podcast right? They they they they can understand the English right? They are more willing to think they look look they don't look at religion and race as to be central to governance you know?

yeah. Right? But so there's a minority of that But but I I would agree that we still need to get some parts of the society to understand our message that's why some of my videos I speak in Malay if I mean we can continue talking in English speaking in English but you know as for me I'm all alone I have no resource to convert whatever I say like a subtitle into Malay or English or whatever you know but but I do think it is quite good idea to have a subtitle.

What? Yeah so in Malay at least. Well I mean reaching out my strategy is very simple. When I look at the demographics right? We've got 55 to 58% of Malays right? The people think it's like 60 or 80 70% Malays yeah because what you have there is actually the non-Malay bumiputras and the non-Malays in totality right? We all know that what you call I mean non-Malay rights are infringed upon okay? And Malay rights And Malay rights also and the people that think this way are those who are thinking right? So if you take a sliver of that majority and you add with the

those minorities whose rights has been stepped on or votes has been like what you say has been what do you call taken for granted Yeah yeah yeah yeah because they think you got no choice Well PH won on the back of these people.

Yeah but they don't care they still don't believe you. Exactly but you know what I am so glad that they are in power and the people can see now what really goes on in PH especially PKR okay? So otherwise people still believe that you know they are the savior of this country but now because of what happened you know I always believe whatever happens there is a reason for it. Throughout my life you know why do I come back to Malaysia it's not my will I want to come back but I due to circumstances I'm back in Malaysia you know and somehow I I get involved in

activism and all that it wherein I will not be in the UK or maybe I would right now I was going on in the UK but yeah so there is a reason for everything that happened. Why PH won is to show to the people really the true colors of PH that you know all in PH Amanah PKR especially PKR and DAP you know I am very disappointed with DAP because DAP never said anything prior to their wipeout in in Sabah only now they start speaking up okay? So that is the most disappointing thing about DAP because amongst all of them we thought DAP is the most progressive but I think they want to ensure that there

is no you know disagreement within the block you know within the PH block so you know they want to be seen as towing the line that they are all together agree agreeing on the whatever is being done but they forget that we we are people who have brains you know we can see and we can think then only they realize and then you start to see about them saying things but which is good at least they they come back to their senses senses but but it shows their attitude they are not able to stand up on their own and go against the the head of the snake and say no I think we need to to proceed

with this reform reformasi that you have been shouting about all these years yeah but I think it's a bit too late for DAP but I don't know I mean maybe if they are in coalition with a party or group of people who are more aligned with their you know ideas they may not be what they are right now they are muted yeah. Well I I I'm wondering whether actually to a certain extent my disappointment is no more because why? You want bottom line you know you've been in power what two years plus already right?

Yeah Okay so you have not delivered and then you got wiped out in Sabah and then you want to make noise right? To me I I just saw your colors already. Yes what I see all these political parties especially like DAP because they have been labeled as a Chinese party right? Of course they are not but the thing is you see not just DAP we are talking about Muda we are talking about PSM. No PKR themselves label themselves to be Penny a multi-racial party but they don't behave like one. Of course that's the thing you see no one dares to touch on the the the elephant in the room okay?

Which is the use of religion in politics no one will dare to speak up about this because to me personally I see the use of religion in politics is really the the problem the problem because the use of religion in politics is nothing wrong with religion but politicians shouldn't bring in their religious values into politics or policies or law okay? Because this is the way they control people you know that if you don't submit to these religious ideological ideas you are going to hell and of course people who are not so knowledgeable about their own faith they believe whatever these people say

so they keep on voting keep on voting the same people and these people you know they are not representing Islam or you know representing the religion itself They ARE REPRESENTING THEMSELVES

EXACTLY SO that they can remain in power so that you know they they will remain in power for as long as they can and they can and then they can do whatever behind the scene you know under the table you I mean sorry I I've like Mahathir for example an example why did he bring in Anwar Ibrahim and he actually set up Jakim? Okay, because he wants to be seen that he is also a defender of Islam. He wants to be seen by the Malays that you know, he is not abandoning Islam. So you know, so that he still has the vote of the Malays. That's you know, and and so therefore he can

keep on remaining in power. UMNO, not just him, but UMNO itself. You know, they are the defenders of the Malays and the and Islam per se. So yeah, this tactic must be abandoned by our rakyat. I I think I think this is where I think you and I come in with the thought process of actually in order to make change, right? Rome was not built in one day. Of course.

Right? But if if we come to the next election where we see new faces that come from either independents or smaller parties that are new. New faces, new people, new blood and with the capability and the thinking for the rakyat itself, right?

And you actually vote based on the person rather than vote for the parties. The logo. Right? Then they can form a coalition that will look after your interest. If you do not do this, we will forever go down this slippery road that we have right now.

Right. We It's It's It's It's going to and the the the the problem that people don't see is actually they are and I keep wanting to say this. They You don't have to convince the majority of the Malays. Yeah, yeah. You can't You don't need to and you can't as well until until some changes have been made, right? Because

you need to put these people who are going to make changes, okay? And that is going to those those people will come from the thinking audience, from the thinking citizens, you know, whether they are Malays or non-Malay. All right? Because changes in civilization come from minority groups.

Absolutely. Yes. It come from minority, whether it's Malay minority of the Malay Yeah. or the minority in the non-Malay community as a whole. If you combine, you actually will make the majority. So you can elect those people, right, Siti? Yes, absolutely. I agree as I have said multiple times, you know, because I said, let's say people ask me, we have no choice. It's either PH or PN, okay? If there is no a third choice. So now, you know, for me I say like this. If you have no choice, PH or P PN. Now, you look at that person, you know, not not the party itself. The person, do

you think this person that they put up in your area, which one is the best, you know? I mean, is that person from PH is a better representative as your mouthpiece in Parliament or maybe PN? But of course, PN have shown their true colors all these years, you know? They never thought about anything else but religion, religion, religion, religion about dressing, dressing, dressing. Well, Siti, now we have seen PH true colors as well. Sure. Yeah, but this is why I mean, so use your brain. Use your brain. Which one of these will represent your views and your vision for the country?

So yeah, but if there is a third person or even a lembu as I have said, if there is a third choice, I don't care whether this person is known or unknown in the political scene, but of course, people understand there are some what they call it, they plan independents. You know, I mean You got to assess yourself, right?

Exactly. So assess whether this independent, you know, out of nowhere suddenly appear. So look at his background, you know, things like that. You have time to check. But there are independents who will be known, you know, that already speaking speaking up about the views their views, you know? So I would say give a chance to these people to be in Parliament and if they fail you, that's why we have election every 5 years. It's to kick these people out, you know, who don't perform. Then only these the want-to-be politicians, the want-to-be people who wants to be in the

August house or wants to represent the public, they can see, oh, okay, you know, do I really want to do this, you know, and you know, because they our voters are getting smarter. You know, if I don't perform, they will not elect me, you know? So yeah, this takes time to change, but we have to start somewhere. I think I think I think the next GE is the best time to make this change. We have seen enough every cycle and we have come to a point where we've seen both sides of what we have at the moment is the same old, same old. You know, they don't care, they take you

for granted, they put a middle finger you. They say, here's my reform. Oh, we don't pass. That's enough for me. Yeah. Right? I I think if we end up with probably three to five people as a start, Yes. it's already good enough for to force some of the changes and actually to start a movement within the country that actually is going to provide real substantive change or otherwise we kick ALL OF THEM OUT. EXACTLY. So this is the thing because p- the the politicians that we have right now, you know, they are so in fear of um upsetting the Malays because, you know,

they don't want to touch on the issue of religion, for example. You know, we are not touching the religion per se. We are saying that, you know, religion should be left at home, you know? It's up to individual. The government shouldn't get involved involved in regulating religions per se. You know, I mean, we have each state has a you know, religious authorities, right? Why do we need Jakim? Yeah. You know, I mean, why? Because we need to spend money so that it goes to some people. Exactly. Where do Why do the money goes? You know, have we seen audited accounts? I I I tell you, if I

want to go down this road, I will be another episode, my friend, you know? we need to tell the Malays that their faith and them as an identity is not going to be But you know what, Siti? I I I really don't need to tell the Malays. If you ask me personally, huh?

Yeah, yeah. If I want to make a change in this country, okay? I need a p- the the critical thinking Malays Yeah. which they are. Yes. They They are a reasonable group in there that will vote together with the non-Malays to make changes to get people in that actually will work for the people. That's all we need to start off with. Rome not built in a whole day. Sure, yeah.

Three, five people in, we make or whatever. We I mean I mean No, it would be so great The tsunami will start within the next 4 years. It would be so great if suddenly there were a lot of new faces from unknown parties or independents in Parliament. That would be so exciting. You know, you know, I'm sure the Malays are not stupid. They are also fed up with what's going on. So you know, so maybe maybe they will change their voting. You know, I mean, this is uh We need to tell the public, the rakyat, Malaysian people that why not try new something new? Why do you want

to keep on eating the same food every day, you know? other thing that actually really when I look at things, right? As a as somebody who has employed hundreds of people, right? And build things from small, you know? I I One thing I I I realized, Siti, you are a lawyer. You practice You've been practicing. You've built a career, you know? Politician, when you come from political parties, this this big old political parties, you have to actually first ensure that your bosses know who you are loyal to. Then only you get selected to become a potential nominee for a constituency. And that takes a

long time. So a lot of the politicians does not have real life experience or real life work experience where you know, this I think it for me is not about your qualification, is not about your No, it's about your your real sense. Yeah, but that comes from, if you ask me, one of our biggest biggest problem, right, is

is even today, they are all career politician. All right? They are career politician. They are no people from private life that decide to say, "I'm going to make a contribution to my society as a national service." Yes. That's the word I wanted to say just now which I missed to mention it. So, please. Being a politician, yeah, being a representative of the people, you are elected by them, you are doing a national service, you know, which I think a lot of That's why I keep telling the people, "Don't you kowtow, you know, like when you see a YB?" Kononnya, you kowtow to them, "Oh, YB, YB."

I really cannot stand that. And really, I keep You know, when I give a talk to orang asli, I always say that, "Can you please understand these so-called YB Yang Berhormat, you know, so-called Yang Berhormat, you know? You They are working for you. You understand? They should be kowtowing to you. They are the ONE WHO SHOULD TUNDUK TO YOU, you know? But no, we have this cultural mentality that you know, this is quite common when you have money, when you have status, when you have a position, when you have looks, you know, things like that. People look up to you, you know? I mean, we have to

get rid of that mindset." I have a suggestion actually for everybody, you know? Never call these people YB. Come on. I I'M JUST SO FED UP. Can I just say this? I'm so fed up. They are not YB They are not Yang Berhormat. Maybe most of them are Yang Bodoh. So, can we do ourselves as as citizens a favor, okay? Give ourselves as citizen dignity as the bosses of these people. Exactly. Once the rakyat understand that we are the bosses of these people who are sitting in the August House in the Aduns, that we are the bosses, you know, that goes to again, you know, about Aduns as well.

They they are also making laws, you know, for the state, which you must understand how the laws are being made. You know, I mean, anything that happened in your state, it is your Adun is to be at fault, okay? You blame them. So, again, the you know, we have to change this mindset. These people are serving us. They We are not the They are servants, you know? I remember one guy I met in London High Commissioner High Commission. So, he's a Dato, okay? You know, I have no I HAVE NO CARE ABOUT your title, you know? But especially if you behave like you know, can I use this word a

Who do you think you are, you know? So, I I didn't call him a Dato and he got upset. Because that's one thing he got got upset with me not calling him a Dato. But the other part he got upset when I said the civil servants and all of these people in parliament also, they are civil servants. You know, they are That's the reason why they are called civil servants, I said, you know? They are the servant TO THE PEOPLE. WOW, HE GOT REALLY UPSET. "WE ARE NOT SERVANTS," HE SAID. I SAID, "YOU ARE. YOU ARE the servants to the people who got paid by the people," I said. And he really got went

ballistic. You see, this is the thing. They don't understand they are servants to the public, you know? And they they think that because they are having this power in parliament or being appointed by the government, they have to be respected, kowtow to them, you know, like

Go fly kite. I'm not time for you, you know? I mean, you need to be kowtowing to us, the rakyat, you know? So, this is we need to make people understand, you know, the role of these people and the role of the rakyat, you know, who who they are actually. Once they understand this, the difference between the servants and the bosses, they you know, I mean, servants get paid, all right, okay? A humongous amount of money for just going to you know, the parliament, they get allowance on top of their salary. Padahal is a job, you know? It is part of their job, you know? Why do they need

allowance and then all the claims, the hotel, everything? God knows what. I don't know. Yeah, but yeah, all this rubbish. If you If you ask me right now, I think not just I think we have come to a point where I don't think just the prime minister need to have only two terms. I think every elected office have to have a maximum two terms. And and not just that, I don't think they should be allowed a pension. Yeah. Why should they be allowed a pension? Exactly. You you you got one term MP and then suddenly you get pension for the whole of your life. Two terms, you got pension for your life.

One term. No, no, let's say two terms. We give them two terms also. Enough. Okay? You are there to serve the rakyat. Okay? You don't want, then don't go into politics. Correct. Right. We should not make political position rewarding in terms of financial at all. Exactly. So, you know, I mean, the perks, the amount of perks these people get, is crazy, you know? Why? Why are they getting all these perks, you know? I mean, they are supposed to be serving the rakyat. Okay, fine, they need to be paid a salary. Sure, pay them. Yeah. But to get a pension after just serving one term?

Exactly. That's why you are inviting people who not only they don't think about how are we going to make this country better. No, they just think, "Oh, okay, I I want to be in to be as an MP cuz then, you know, I am sorted out for the rest of my life, you know? I get paid." How much are they paid monthly, these MPs? 16,000? 16,000 if I'm not mistaken. No, no, no, their basic salary. I don't know. But But all of them are somehow become millionaires at the end of THE DAY. EXACTLY. SO, FROM WHAT I READ, THEY EARN 16,000. SO, imagine an income after they retire, they they

stop serving, then they get a pension of half of their salary. THAT'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY for doing nothing, absolute nothing, you know? I mean, people work for donkey years TO GET TO THAT level to 8,000 per month. No, some people will never reach that amount. So, you know, I mean, unless you're the CEO, it's different. I mean, how many people become CEOs? Exactly. But here's the other thing actually, we rakyat are the one that are actually paying their salary, including the civil servant, you rightly put, you know? Okay? Not just we pay their salary, actually we pay their taxes as well in

the private from the private sector. The private sector are paying everything that goes through government coffers. Okay? You are our servants. You are our servants. Including the pig farmers, they pay tax. You know, I get very annoyed when I see politician from the stage, okay, talking down to people, talking down in terms of their tone, in terms of how they you know, in fact, I think 50% of questions to politicians, okay, should be nasty. I really believe that because then you see their character. You can see whether they can answer properly or not. It

should be probing and it should put them in their place. They don't deserve to be called YB. You look at that journalist, what's what's his name? The one got just because he asked about the treatment of the non-Malays with regard you know, he didn't he didn't mention about the word apartheid, yeah? That was done by George Galloway. You know, and and people here like worshipping George Galloway. Hello, do you know who he is, you know? But anyway, this guy got investigated, verified, you know, because they twisted around and said that you know, he put the he kind of saying that the

treatment towards the non-Malays are akin to apartheid. That was put by George Galloway. It's not actually I forgot his name. But you know, not just that, journalist. I only And then he was sacked by by you know, he was remanded as well. He was put in jail. Can you imagine a journalist asking a question Uh, nothing like was being That actually should offend our Minister of Information, our Prime Minister should have told the police stop. People have a right to ask questions.

Yeah. Okay? Yeah. They kept the questions can be rude. Okay? I don't care. That's what I mean. You see, that's the thing. We have to learn this. A lot of Malaysians are in fear of even asking or saying something. Uh, especially how the non-Muslims, uh, the non-Malays are being treated. And then, uh, uh, again, the issue of religion being used and all that. They won't dare because they're so scared because they have seen how the government agencies clamp down on them, you know, arrest them and all that, you know?

and that's the government they elected. Well, this is it. This is now is coming out, lah. That's the government you elect. Yeah, I mean, look at the the treatment of, uh, the some preachers, uh, against the Hindu temples and all that. Uh, yeah, why are they not being, uh, It's not even-handed. investigated or, you know, things like that. Uh, but the moment, uh, the Hindus got upset, you know, uh, because of the provocation, oh, quickly they will clamp down on the, uh, this, uh, Hindus, you know. Um, So, that's why people are in fear. I I remember one time there was a I think it

was an Indian student asking the PM something. Right? And he was shut down. I I I thought that was very poor. Mhm. Not it just very he was like Uh, it it's it it is very, uh, indicative of the culture of our politicians. Yeah. You know, they think that they they think they're higher than us. You know, when we are paying their salary, we are the one who put them into their offices. You know, uh, because you see, they have managed to convince the majority Malays that, uh, they will defend, uh, their rights. Well, Siti, I mean, I want to I want to add something

slightly in in in in disagreement is is that actually they've also convinced the non-Malays that the non-Malays got no choice but to vote for them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, actually, if you ask me, the both the groups are to be blamed because you put these people in power, you don't realize there's a way for you to change the whole system, but you refuse because you are scared. The problem is Malaysians are scared. All right? And number one, maybe they're scared. Number two, maybe they're not thinking. Look at the percentage in certain constituencies that you can get really good people, okay?

Against the choice that these political parties shove in your throat regardless. Mhm. Mhm. But, you know, They don't care about you. You know, so they use you. They use you. So, I I think I think I want to I I want to see uh, more people of character, more people of, uh, of of, uh, private sector background, really, you know? No, it's not their background or what. No, it's more of the mindset of that person.

that's the character. I think that's number one. That's to me is the character. The mindset informs the character, you know? Because you can see from the character if the mindset is wrong, the character is screwed up. But they are very good, uh, you know, people who pretend, uh, that

have to be smart about it. That's why you have to ask pretty hard questions, right? Correct. Yes, yes, yes. But, yeah, but you know, to be 5 years, uh, to be elected 5 years, enough already, mah. You know, I can, uh, have a nice cushion, uh, position after I, uh, stop being, uh, an MP. I will be, you know, appointed to be this and that, you know? Uh, then uh, you, you know, then and and and uh, you get a nice pension, you know? So, yeah, I don't care, you know, because I will get all these benefits, uh, after I stop being an MP, I will be appointed into positions here and there,

you know? I'll be on the board of directors. People sought after me. So, what do I care, you know? That's the thing, you know? And and and uh, this is the problem. Siti, why don't we do a people's manifesto? Yeah, we should. Yeah, we will. I just thought about it. Why don't we do a people's manifesto where actually, yeah, Well, PH has a manifesto, bloody long one. Very simple. Okay? Term limit uh, for every elected position. That means after two position, you cannot seek re-election. Two terms, that's it. You are not going to take pension. Okay? Oh, if you are being charged in

court for a criminal offense, you have to take a garden leave, you know? You cannot stay on and then, uh, you know, because you see, people fail to see that if they remain in the power, like you know, they have big influence. Yeah. They can influence people, uh, to do certain things. We don't know. So, we must get them out from having that power. I mean, if if if you pledge five items, okay? To not use religion, okay? To pro- I mean, by say I'm going to promote a bill to ban use of religion. Yeah. Okay? I'm going to promote a bill to have a term limit, okay?

Yeah. That means, uh, we'll see how many of the MPs Another bill, okay, which I think is so important. Right. It's about, uh, it must go needs-based. Not on racial or religious base. Yeah. So, people who are in need, for example, if the Malays need help, then the government should be helping them. So, when it goes by needs-based, people who are really in need of help, assistance by by the government, they will get the help no matter from what race or faith. That's so simple, isn't it? Yeah. So simple. Why why can't that be done? Because they have been, uh, the Malays

have been sold this, uh, rhetoric. They will lose their their their quota. Uh, they will lose, uh, their 7% uh, uh, discount in buying properties, you know? I mean, that that's the thing, you see?

I've never bought, uh, I I I've never bought, uh, using the discount. No. You know why? Because what because that means that my pool of, uh, buyer later is limited. Exactly. You know? That's the one thing. The other thing is people want to understand modern commerce.

uh, and this, uh, idea by some people in the government that they must, uh, preserve the Malays, uh, sort of asset, uh. I don't I just want to tell you this.

It's actually counterproductive from an economic standpoint. Let me just tell you my experience. I was shocked. At that time I just, uh, couple of years, returned from the UK, right? So, when I got home, uh, you know, I bought a property in PJ. Uh, which is, you know, uh, uh, quite, uh, expensive property, lah. And I bought it from a Chinese, okay? So, it's a non-Malay bumi rights, kind of, land, uh. Then, uh, obviously things happened. I want to sell the property and, uh, my friend who did the convincing told me and said that, uh, "Siti, it will take, you know, at least 1 year

to get approval because it's a lease land." I said, "Why?" "Oh, they will reject you, reject you until finally maybe a few, uh, rejections then only you may get approval." Now, every time you appeal, you have to pay money. Okay? At that time it was what? 200? 300? I can't remember. So, anyway, me being me, right? I don't Sure, you just wait, okay? I just went to, uh, the the the land office and I went to uh, Shah Alam. That time K K K Toyo, I think, was, uh, the the MB. Uh, I just went there to the office and I said, "You know, I understand that, uh, my application to

sell the house may have some problem. Can you check the status?" True enough, it's been stamped as rejected. Okay. Now, I asked, uh, K Toyo was not in, you know. I will just, uh, so, his assistant was there and he said she said, "Oh, so sorry, you know, you have I said, "On what basis are you rejecting my application?" Because they have this unwritten policy, a bumi putra who owns a property above, uh, a certain, uh, value, they are not, uh, they were not, you know, they're not allowed to sell to a non-bumi. Because the buyer that I have was a non-bumi. Then I said, "On what basis, you know,

people don't do not just sell their house for no reason, uh." I said, "People sell their house because either they want to move somewhere else or they have a reason, personal reason, like I did, to sell the property quickly. So, now you are rejecting me and this is not a Bumi land. I bought it from a Chinese and a Chinese buyer wants to buy. So, what is your rationale behind this? Okay, I said, because now I have to reapply and it will take time and I have to pay again. Do you think you're helping the Malays when you do this? You are actually not helping the Malays. The Malays will have

to pay another cost just to reapply when you have no reason to reject in the first place, right? So, because no answer, I get approval. Right, how many will do what I did?

Yeah. The The problem is this is what is happening in this country, which is they are taking advantage of you know, us being passive people to be honest. Right, yes, absolutely. And and and we Asians or maybe we Malaysians especially are very forgiving. You know, we take and we take and we take. Right? Uh we are not maybe we are not like the Indonesians who you know, after a certain point they probably go ballistic. Yeah. I think it's about time that Malaysians become a bit more ballistic. Right? Yeah, well, I think it's more important Malaysians need to understand their rights, okay? So, uh

you know, a lot of people from my experience is because they don't understand their rights, okay? You do not need to be a lawyer to know about your rights. You just need your common sense. But the thing is this, I think I think we should start there. We were talking about this this issue of of of electing people who who will look after our rights, who are going to speak up for us. And it's not going to come from You ask me right now, it's not going to come from the current political parties that we have. No, I I can't see it either, yeah. I I think unless

I had hope before, but no. Yeah. It's so funny, right? I mean, if if we don't step up and say that we're going to make changes, we're going to put people who are uh who are capable of this kind of No, we just need a courageous leader, okay? Just to implement what is right for the nation as a whole, Right, it's it's not going to come from the really let let's put it it's not going to come from the traditional political parties already. They have seen it already. Yes, yes, yes. I mean, the I think the the the issue that that people need to understand is that they have the ability

to choose different people. Yes. Yeah, and look at their characters. Correct, yeah. So, can you give us a a round up on on on this you know, for our viewers before we go to

Yeah, for me I would advise the viewers if you really want change in Malaysia to be a progressive nation, uh you know, please give a chance to new faces, new blood, no matter who. Like I said, if in my constituency where I vote, there is one cow they put there, a lembu, I will vote for that lembu, you know. You know why? Because at least the lembu has not shown whether he can perform or not. The rest, they have shown they are not going to do so. They will protect their position. So, if that lembu don't perform in 5 years, I kick him out. I KICK HIM OUT OR HER OUT, you know? I mean, it's very

simple. So, this is the mindset I want to try and get the public to understand. Uh Malaysians as a whole, okay? Give a chance to new faces, new blood in our parliament and see how they perform. If they're still not doing anything, you know, like sedap sedap getting monthly salary and then get pension, kick them out, you know? I mean, that's the power we have. People forget they have the power every 5 years and that is what we must protect, you know, the power for us to vote in people uh to vote in people who can

out people who cannot do their work. AND VOTE OUT. PEOPLE WHO can look after our welfare. You know, religion is religion, race is race, but at the end of the day, even if you are Chinese, Indian, Malay, Orang Asli, Orang Asal or Sikh or what you know, all the multiple races we have, what is important is food on our table, money in our pocket, okay? And our freedom to live peacefully as a human being. You know, that is I think the most important thing in everybody's mindset. You know, that's why I I always think why people cannot see. For me, it's very clear. You know, my vision is very

clear. Why are people unable to see this? It's very simple. Number one, I think it's because of fear, okay? Number two, fear not just because they are scared to speak up, but the other fear is they will be, you know, in hell if they don't follow these certain politicians. Uh you know, THIS IS

THOSE ARE THE POLITICIANS they elected that is going to put the police onto them if they don't like what you speak. Yeah. Wow, that's so nice. Yeah, exactly. It's It's It's so for Malays as well, you know? I mean, there we have Shia, we have Ahmadiyya. We have multiple beliefs, you know?

Everybody go to Mecca. Uh even in Islam, okay? I mean, there are multiple different sort of interpretation. And for me, what is your problem in letting these people live their lives to believe what they believe as long they do no harm to others. You know, why is it our country needs to control a narrative only Sunni Wal Jamaah, you know? Who are you to control the narrative of Islam? Only God can control. So, if the Shia or the Ahmadiyya believe and the Sunni or whatever, they believe they're Muslims, but the way they practice is different, leave them be. It's their business.

Yeah, who are you to to to control and say your version is the right one? I have serious problem with that, you know? Yeah, serious. I I I I remember when I was very young even, I mean, my Ustaz used to tell me, you see, in Islam there is no intermediator between you and God.

Yeah, there's no interme- intermediator. Yeah, no. So, why is it that actually in today's age that we allow other people to be to be the interpreter for us? Yeah.

Who are you? Are they God? Are they God's representative? is the mindset they have managed to plant into the Malay minds that you know, there is a in the Sharia provisions. Many people don't know about this. You say anything against the religious people and religious authority is an offense.

Yeah. How can that be? So, we we got to change all this, ladies and gentlemen, because don't think that this is a Muslim problem. No, it's not. Okay, it's not a Muslim problem. It's a Malaysian problem. They will come after you next.

Yes, they will. They will. They will. Okay, and they have. So, with all that, I think let's wrap it up for today. Yep. Okay, we'll see each other again, CT Azlinda, you know? I'm sure we will.

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