# Democrats Go Full Mamdani, the Politics of Shutdown and something STRANGE about Biden (Episode 25)
Published: 2025-11-06T10:19:23+00:00

## Summary
Sam and co-host Chuang dissect the state of American politics from an external viewpoint, critiquing progressive leadership following Zohran Mamdani's mayoral rise and evaluating the 36-day federal government shutdown. They argue that unchecked welfare policies, institutional corruption, and census-driven electoral strategies threaten democratic stability while advocating for systemic disruption under Trump 2.0.

## Key Takeaways
- [2:05] Progressive populist politicians often lack real-world corporate or entrepreneurial experience, relying primarily on media appeal and socialist promises rather than proven executive ability.
- [10:11] Aggressive wealth taxes consistently backfire by driving high earners and mobile capital away to lower-tax jurisdictions rather than generating sustainable local revenue.
- [17:35] Federal government shutdowns function primarily as political shadow play, weaponising continuing budget resolutions at the expense of millions of unpaid civil servants.
- [29:21] America functions as a continuously evolving constitutional experiment, contrasting with authoritarian states where social stability and economic perfection are fabricated through coercion.
- [50:59] Counting total persons rather than citizens in US census calculations incentivises blue sanctuary cities to welcome illegal immigration to expand congressional seats and electoral votes.
- [1:00:01] Presidential vote tallies in 2020 show statistical anomalies compared to 2012, 2016, and 2024, pointing to potential vulnerabilities introduced by widespread mail-in voting.

## Chapters
0:00 08:30: The New York City Disaster and Snake Oil Salesmen
8:30 13:00: Mamdani's Policies and the Stupidity of Taxing the Rich
13:00 23:00: The Federal Shutdown: Incompetence and Corruption
23:00 41:00: The Unipolar World and Trump's Bull-in-a-China-Shop Approach
41:00 49:00: The True Evil: Electoral Fraud and the Census Scam
49:00 END: Next Week’s Lesson

## Transcript
[0:00] Welcome back to the Gut podcast um with Sam and myself Chang. Hi guys. Now u let's kick off. I think a good place to start Sam would be the um New York City mayoral elections. Very interesting. We now have the youngest ever mayor, first ever Muslim. I think he's 34 years old,

[0:16] Zoran Mani, right? Yeah. A Democrat. Uh no less. But that's not really surprising, right? It's a blue state after all, right? Um but um there's so much to read into this because um we actually thought that Ko was going to run him close but he did win eventually in Mani. How do you

[0:34] you think he was going to run it close? I thought it was going to run him close. Yeah. I don't you didn't think so? No. Why not? Because uh number one, it's a very blue state anyway. It was always a blue state. Yeah. Yeah. Uh I mean even though New York has been run by Republicans before.

[0:50] Yeah. uh but the uh the way the the population has been um it's been becoming very blue uh all the way. So that was not much of a surprise. What is most interesting is actually is the candidacy was very poor from the other uh factions of the Democratic party. Um so Mandani winning on a platform of populism based on socialist policies. In fact, I mean, I think at one point he himself consider uh did uh mention, if I'm not wrong, don't sue me on this one as being a commie. So um uh it it it really did not uh surprise me

[1:38] considering that I have basically taken that that faction and that side of the uh of of of America uh as being uh now uh beholden to the extreme left. When I say extreme left of the party, I mean you are looking at the party of uh Doran Madani and uh Elizabeth h sorry uh uh um AOC um Okaziocortez, you know. So um this side of the party actually is very interesting in the sense that uh if you are a democrat and among my friends as democrat I don't hate you guys you know the only thing is I think they are the poster child of young people who has never built anything never done anything in their

[2:39] entire lives except for um being looking good on camera and being able to actually uh talk um well let's put it this way um sells snake oil pretty good

[2:59] you see that's the commonality among the that's the commonality I think social media friendly and they understand the power of the public right I think the the difference there are some people who who make comments like you know uh Mandani and Trump are very much popul populist animals, right? But the difference is this. The very stark difference is Trump has built things. Trump has achieved things. Okay? Um Trump has employed people. Okay? Trump has built economies, you know, with respect to his corporations, you know. I mean corporations you can argue because anybody who has

[3:43] been in business can tell you that actually if you have never failed in business for at least twice in your entire career you've never really done business. So I when I hear all this you know so but and Mandani is is also uh the same with AOC what what has AOC achieved she's a bartender you know not that bartending is a bad thing to do you know I mean the I don't I I don't put down any any jobs but the thing is does that qualify you to actually lead a country or lead a a a a congressional district. No, it does not. This is basically the problem in politics is

[4:34] that we got people who actually have no qualifications but a very good talkers and brought up subjects that sounds good. This is the problem with politics. Politics are politics tend to bring people who actually don't know but the best thing they do is to talk good to galvanize support. Um, look, I I will say this, right? I think firstly the Democrat party, they're not ideologically um embedded as as a whole. There's many variations of ideologies in the Democrat party and I think what Mandani does is represent the progressive left. It galvanizes the young.

[5:13] I hate the word progressive left. I know. I know. But that's what because that's not their policies are not progressive at all. Progressive is an adjective that is subjective to something. That's what they have tried to brand themselves. Correct.

[5:25] Yeah. So there's obviously some within the Dems who don't who have not endorsed Mandani wholeheartedly. I think Chuck Schumer who is a centrist did not endorse Mandani but so I think there are some within the Dem Democratic party who don't want um the Mandani uh uh version to be the template for the party and I think I think that is kind of where it is now. The second thing I would say is that I think the world could experiment with younger leaders at one stage. I think Justin Trudeau in Canada was one example.

[5:54] Disaster. Justinta Arden in New Zealand was another example. She's disaster, right? Couple of countries. Give me give give more names and I'll keep on saying disaster. Couple of countries in Scandinavia, right? I can't I think it was Sweden. She's quite young, right? I can't remember her name. Um but I would say this about um career politicians. Career politicians, they have never built anything. They have built a career of saying things that people like and can galvanize support, but they they don't actually build things and they actually never fail. And they've been they've

[6:25] grown up on a diet of lifelong uh um yesmen, right? Uh Siko fans, right? And a good example in Malaysia is Najib Rasa, right? Du Najib Rasa was the prime minister, but he started in politics when he was in his early 20s. He never felt, he never worked outside, he worked in the corporate world. He did a degree or

[6:44] Nepo baby, right? Nepo baby. It is right. He's a Nepo baby, right? He's the politics. Mangani is a Nepo baby. Yeah. Yeah. And so I I would say yes. I mean I will give it to him. His video shots are fantastic.

[6:58] Fantastic. Look at how Justinda Aden got so much social media following when she did all that social media when she was prime minister of New Zealand. Right. But um but what what what do they deliver? Yeah. They deliver disasters.

[7:10] Yeah. you know so I think if there is a lesson and I hope I actually when this whole discussion was coming up uh within the I mean I'm a very ardent fan of this two-way community uh in the US where actually uh what what is hosted by Mark Halpran Sean Spicer and uh and and Dan Tarantine and they come from different spectrum of u of politics and and journalism So I said this um I really wanted uh Mami to win.

[7:48] Did you? Yeah. Why? So because I think he will he will screw it up big time and that will be the poster child for the Democrats. Because for me what is happening today with the Democratic party Democratic party has left people like me. It's not that I It's not that somehow my values have changed, but actually the values of what the Democratic party used to be has changed.

[8:14] Okay. And actually Trump basically represents um a shift in the Republican party as well. The Republican party has changed because of Trump. All right.

[8:28] I think they had no choice, right? He's like a force of nature. Yeah. But that's what happens in in in in actually American politics which is which I wish could happen in other countries like ours you know to for the better which then comes to when we talk about Mam Dani now that he is mayor I tell New York City good luck I wish you the best and see you in about two years um when everything falls apart. Well, he he was uh his campaign focused on things like um affordability through rent freezers. Okay, that's number one. Free public transport, transit, that's number

[9:06] two. Uh public education was expanded. Cityrun grocery stores and food deserts. Free child care. Maintaining this I I like this one. Maintaining New York City as a sanctuary city by resisting federal immigration enforcement. Okay,

[9:23] let's go that to the last one because that will that will funnel us to the next topic which is obviously the the shutdown, right? The shutdown and also the immigration and why the Democrats were so intent on having an exodus of illegal immigrants into the United States.

[9:43] Well, in in exodus uh incoming, right? So that's the the sense it was an exodus. Yeah. from their countries into the US from outside everywhere. But to talk about the shutdown first, right, Sam? Uh look, um no no but before we go to that, right?

[9:56] Let me let me finish up on on all these issues. Who's going to pay for it? Number one. Okay. Who's going to pay? How are you going to do it? So he has spoken about raising the taxes uh on on the richest.

[10:11] Okay. Now, let's put it this way. You going to okay you you're going to you're going to raise taxes on the so-called richest. I move out. Yeah. Yeah. That's what's happened in the UK, right?

[10:23] That's happened in Western Europe as well. They just Why are these people so dumb and stupid? Okay. And then you want to have

[10:35] look at fortune. They don't know what it's like to run a multi-billion dollar corporation because they've they've they've been born into into money, right? Who who are his parents? Mandani Mandani's parents uh one of them that I know of um is the famous Indian director. Okay. Uh of a movie of movies.

[10:56] Okay. Okay. Um u uh the other one is uh I think his his father his father is also well off but the mother is actually also a celebrated movie director.

[11:10] Um that has actually broke through into Hollywood. Do you remember the British prime minister the Indian guy as well? What was his name? I can't remember now. Sun. No well yeah but but yeah actually yeah he was actually wealthy parents as well. Yeah,

[11:25] because of like some kind of corporate banker or something, right? No, all these people money comes too easy for them, you know. So, spending other people's money the way they spend mother's money is easy. All right. Now, the question is very simple. Question is actually you want to have even in Australia.

[11:46] Yeah. Where I mean let's get let's let's go to Melbourne. You've got you've got uh intercity uh rail that has been going on for a long time. Yeah.

[12:01] Right. Infrastructure that has been going a long time. Yeah. Okay. It's only very limited, you know. Number one. Number two, I shared a little bit about Melbourne. Okay. Number two, I I I pilgrimage every year.

[12:14] Really? Yeah. It's expensive, right? Um what to do when your child is there. So um and and the the u uh uh what do you call uh cost of housing is increased you know increased tremendously. Let's put it this way. Cities like New York, Tokyo, um Singapore, even Koala Lumpo, you're not going to stop prices from growing up because why? you have a very limited land space.

[12:52] Okay. Now, if I own a property, if there is anything I would say that the Republican party should do is actually to stop private equities from buying properties. Okay. Because it distorts firms like

[13:07] Yeah. private equity firms like for example. Yeah. because it just distort everything and by the time they go bankrupt on that particular segment which they have in Florida and whatnot they've already in in a way destroyed the property market but actually in cities like New York and whatn not you're not going to be able to stop it you want to live affordable what happens is that people migrate out to find better jobs

[13:35] right I mean you you can't force uh you can't force you. That is communism which is basically I force my people to actually live in a certain way. You know there are signs of Orwellian of an Orwellian world every day. I mean I saw in France for example they are taxing you for the money you have in the bank.

[14:01] That's crazy right? Well they is crazy. I mean people are already people like OC and whatnot are or even Elizabeth Warren I believe or are talking about and and and Bernie talking I used to like Bernie Sanders to be honest. I used to like but the minute I start looking at his policy I say this guys is bonkers you know how why why would you how can you tax somebody on unrealized gains on your asset? Yeah, I mean that would be the first thing that any rich person would would would balk at and then get out of dodge, right? I mean they would go to the Bahamas or they go to I don't know Jamaica or

[14:40] whatever or Dubai. Why would you do that? Tax regime. I mean that's the first tax planning is one of the most integral parts of financial planning. So let's say this year might let's say this year the the the equity asset or the property asset balloon by about few hundred,000 on paper

[14:59] right or even if you inherit your small house from your mother right it goes up a 100,000 and you don't sell it right and you don't sell it and now you have to fork out money to the government you know the biggest travesty

[15:12] is when the asset prices fall they don't compensate you it's only one direction right so that's I mean No, I have I I'm going to I'm going to put a pin on this Mandani thing, okay? For very simple thing. Okay. To me, he's just another snake oil salesman. You guys who voted for him deserve it. Good luck. All right.

[15:33] We got the leaders we got in Malaysia. Yeah, we you guys are just experimenting with something people in the third world already know. Good luck to you guys, New York New Yorkers. Now, today is the 35th day Yeah. that the government of America remains shut. Oh yeah,

[15:48] 3 million government servants in America. I think 1 million of them have not been paid yet. 2 million have been furled, right? But what is most gling for me is because the Treasury general accounts has remained shut. There is no liquidity in the system.

[16:01] Bitcoin unfortunately is below $100,000. So okay, I'm sorry buddy. So So Solana is 155, right? It's created. But what is crazy Sam, what is crazy, right?

[16:14] Uhuh. Is that while liquidity has dried up in in in in in the US um and and cryptocurrencies have created the AI and and share markets are still soaring. But but that doesn't remove the fact that in in the US both parties have not um they continue to bicker. They continue to to to disagree on continuing resolutions which are required to to get the government back on their feet. And I think Trump has actually promised to resolve this this week.

[16:43] Well, here's Let's hope he does it, right? Because this is not good for everybody. I I I put it this way. I think this 60 vote majority requirement for the CR to pass. Yeah.

[16:55] Okay. It's absolutely ridiculous because number one, you've already passed the so-called big beautiful bill uh uh uh what do you call uh previously which is the CR is just a continuation of this bill

[17:11] in order to keep on the government being funding funded which means that you as Democrats okay has already voted for this all right and now you're saying that oh the bill is not clean because is dirty by actually withholding health care subsidies blah blah blah blah blah blah blah then why did you vote for the big beautiful bill in the first place

[17:35] right so all it is is tactics and actually holding ransom the American people for your political play is going to get primar by AOC

[17:48] okay so he needs to show that he is resisting Trump right so this is all in in in in in our Malay palance in Malaysia, we call this uh shadow play.

[18:02] Okay, it's all political shadow play. And the only people who get hurt are actually actual people, right? The government servants for there's three million of them who haven't been paid.

[18:14] Yeah. And the other thing is if you look at it right, I am I' I've got one big thing about about uh about taxation. Okay. I've always said that uh taxation is the dirtiest word in governance. All right. Uh

[18:34] governance of government. Huh? Governance of government. Governance. In governance. Okay. As a as a as a generic thing. Okay. Whether it's I mean in any shape, way or form.

[18:48] Okay. Because I mean especially when we talk about income tax and consumption tax. Okay. Because number one Yeah. Take the premise of income tax itself.

[19:01] Okay. All right. Yeah. I go to work. Yeah. I uh my company has to pay tax for the for for their profit. Mhm. Okay, they pay me an income.

[19:17] Okay, you've already texted my company. Why are you texting me again? Okay, I get now I that's step number one. That's assuming. Okay, what if you don't own the company, right? Doesn't matter shares of the company. No matter does does not matter.

[19:36] This is not double taxation. No, it's not double taxation. I I looked at it this way. Okay, I look at it this way. All right. The com the government has already earned money from business and it has taxed businesses and we are part of the cost of doing business.

[19:53] Okay. We are part of do cost of doing business. So this is obviously a very complex issue. It is. But let me make it simple and then we go to the next subject because why I want to go to what you say the federal government shutdown is.

[20:06] Okay. So quickly I diverge in the sense that then I I get then you income you tax my income. So to me that's secondary tax already. Then afterwards whenever I go and buy something you tax me again.

[20:24] Okay. All right. Here's the problem that I feel. I feel that actually the government does not know how to use the money that they have taxed in the first place. Okay. And all they are doing is actually taxing everybody at every level

[20:41] because they are incompetent. Okay. I don't think that in 19 in 19 think about it when did the federal government I go further than you. I think that every politician, every government in this world bar none is either well is and either stupid, incompetent and corrupt, but not with that order cuz I think most of all they're corrupt and then they're stupid because stupid people cannot survive without being corrupt.

[21:08] No. And then they're incompetent because they make they they've empirically provably factually made wrong decisions at every step of the way in the last 100 years. So there goes, right? I think in that sense you and I agree politician right?

[21:22] So so at the end of the day to make it simple I think it is only in the early 20th century I think after World War I if I'm not mistaken was income tax ever uh instituted in America.

[21:38] All right. So how did they pay before that? Tariffs. Okay. So you can tariffs and you can tax companies, right? you did not even tax uh your people and the only reason they started taxing people is because they went to war. Now please explain to me which war have we gone which world war have Malaysia gone to or any Asian country for that matter over the last decade or two decades. Right?

[22:07] You think Malaysia is one of the biggest civil services in the world. So I rest my case about this taxation business of of of M Dani and actually trying to say that I need to tax more because I need to provide these services.

[22:22] Okay, here's the other problem I face. I seriously face and you guys going to hate this this perspective. Okay, I go to America every year. You goddamn redneck.

[22:35] All right, just joking. Every time I I step up and when I see there are two classes of people that you would consider to be poor. Okay. You've got in actually there are always anomalies. They are always exception to the rule. I am talking in generalities. All right. There are people who who fell by the wayside um through no fault of their own. They get laid off and whatn not. they need some temporary assistance.

[23:07] But when you talk about homelessness, okay, or really poor neighborhood, ghetto neighborhood, okay, there are two things that happen. I see that I see clearly. one, you're either on drugs, which means that you're you are uh uh either um you are not looking after your veterans who are got PTSD and somehow not taking them taking uh taking care of them properly because why the NOS's are making money from all these people that are homeless. They are NOS's that look after these homeless. They are getting money and getting rich off these people. Okay. Second, sometimes I look at all the poor

[23:57] neighborhood and I see two cars. I see big TVs and all of them are fat All right? You're not supposed to be fat if you are poor.

[24:12] It's because they don't have the knowledge. They they have very poor diets. And look, at the end of the day, so you're not eating. Underperforming individuals make bad decisions. Not just that, do you know I mean they've been they they their issues people are taking the snap or what they we used to call in in my time um food stamps and just selling them for you know for money

[24:37] so that they can buy whatever they want to buy you know and they buy ridiculous Yeah. They make poor decisions that's why they remain at the right. So that's why so at the end of the day you know as the saying says you know you teach people how to fish you know

[24:55] don't give them the fish you don't give them the fish so I think you know I I really think one has to look after when you look at socialism socialism and communism is about giving people fish and then telling people how I'm going to give you fish so that you can eat every day now You follow me, you stupid idiots. Right? That's what you guys voted for. So when we talk So let's go to the shutdown. The shutdown has been the longest thing.

[25:25] There's a pathway to the to an opening. It it requires a few steps. I think there's the first thing is bipartisan uh appro agreement, right? I think they should they should just they should find a way get rid of the filibuster, get rid of the 60 vote requirement. I mean, do we pass our our uh uh our budget uh by uh by simple majority?

[25:51] I don't know. Yes. Do we? That's all. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's that's why you need a quorum. You understand? Yeah. You just need we we just need a 51 vote majority. That's it. A 51%

[26:03] 51% vote majority. That's it. You know why do you have this situation in America where you know you oh I have to take care the election already finished. All right. You know.

[26:16] Yeah. Why do I need to listen to you people? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The people has already spoken. What resistance are you talking about? Wait for the next election. Okay. So, I've got these things here, right? Which is exactly what we're seeing now. Okay. Um so, SNAP funds, they run out. Actually, they ran out 4 days ago. Yeah.

[26:36] November the 1st. So, partial payments were issued, of course, right? Because people still need to eat, right? Obviously, uh I'm feeling the fact that financial markets are down. Okay. Treasury general count has been not circulating. Okay. Right.

[26:49] Okay. I'm I'm a conservative guy. So, you know, I don't really I don't really care. I mean, uh, you know, public backlash cures at food food uh p food banks, flight disruption. Sam, I know you haven't flown there in the last two weeks, but unpaid workers, um, legal interventions, court rulings, etc. So, so it's a mess. I mean, domestically, America needs to sort this out. Every other year there's a shutdown. I mean what this is the biggest richest country in the world. I mean not the biggest but it's the richest country.

[27:20] Well it's there are sometimes have this impass every it's not it's it's not that it's not that it's it's not that that that uh it's not that strange for America now that

[27:33] today would would break the longest stretch record. Right. Today exactly today 36 days. Yeah. Yeah. And still no sign. Right. If I were Trump, if I were Trump, I don't give a I'm going to put it as much no matter how they spin it. The problem is this. I'll tell you the problem. The problem is the mainstream media is backing the Democrats. So, the narrative they break they they're bringing out is actually the co the is that Trump is not coming to the table to uh negotiate with the Democrats. What negotiate? The election is over. The Democrats have already passed the

[28:15] previous bill. Okay. So you going to take the government and the people for ransom. Let you Okay. So I want to I if we could move on because um we want to keep the discussion trotting along, right?

[28:30] But if you can move on to the fact that you believe and we've talked about this before, you actually support a uniolar world. My suggestion, my or or rather my push back is that if you can't get your house in order, what gives you the right to run the world?

[28:43] Well, here's the thing. Certainly, right? It's it's a two different people houses should not throw stones. No, no. It's two different tier of of of of uh of of uh

[28:55] in principle I agree that one only one lion can stand on top of the mountain. I in principle. But if that lion has got sores and is uh ill, how can you run the world? Look, let let me can we step back a bit?

[29:08] Okay. Can we step back a bit? And this is why actually um whether we say um whether we talk about the uniol let's close this discussion later on the uniolar world. Okay.

[29:21] But this is in America is it I've always called America an experiment. It's been more than a 200 years experiment. I don't know what how many years is it since 1776 you know 250 years coming to 250 years right so what we have is actually um um an experiment in governance never before seen in history

[29:47] okay so when you have an experiment you don't have a dictatorship you know last week or two weeks before they had uh the the the the left had this uh rally uh uh uh no for kings. I want to laugh my head off,

[30:05] you know. I mean, he he must be the only king that cannot get his budget passed, you know. He must be the only king that u that the Democrats tried to jail, impeach, and uh bankrupt.

[30:20] All right. So, um to the left in America, shut up. You lost. Okay? And not just you lost, you lost people like me who actually used to be if I was an American that would have voted I I would have absolutely be the one who voted for Clinton.

[30:38] All right. So you you've lost the country because of this kind of stupidity behavior. Okay. Now you've got the same situation in America. It is it is always evolving towards what it needs to be better

[30:55] and that's what make America unique and what makes it such a successful society and country. So if things were perfect, I'll tell you where things are perfect.

[31:09] Orwellian. There's no set. Yes. No. No. Exactly. Exactly. Places that are perfect are Orwellian. Yes. I was going to say there's no such thing as perfect. Okay. Places that are perfect are like China where the CCP will tell you exactly this is the data of our economy. It's great. Even though your your your your uh your grab driver or your Uber Uber Eats person is running to get your uh your food and in 15 minutes is on your table rushing up the stairs if I otherwise he won't get paid. That is actually I mean close to slavery servitude you know.

[31:54] Okay. This is what is happening in China. But the CCP media will tell you it's perfect. The country is great. There is no there is no uh there is no infighting, right? There is no chaos. Why there is no chaos? If you start bringing it up, I'm going to bring the riot machine and you all end up in jail. Every single one of you. Right? The first people who were jailed during the COVID were the doctors who tried to whistleblow. Perfect country, right? Well, no. So, so we're not talking about China necessarily. I'm suggesting that, you know, because you see America now,

[32:41] right? And periodically, every few years they have this shutdown and the the the country's administration shuts down. They can't agree. It's like a board of directors who can't agree. But you know what? I would rather to a certain extent to a certain extent even though I disagree with what the Democrat does. I would rather see a parliamentary system that actually argues and fight instead of rubber stamping every legislation, every budget like what we do.

[33:14] Okay. But that's fine, right? You you you should have constructive objections. But what are you seeing in America? I don't know what is a constructive objection. There's only objection. Yeah, there's no such thing as constructive objection.

[33:26] Construction of objection is a way forward ultimately without taking too long. So 36 days is a damn long time. Sam, do you know what I mean? Right. I don't know. It can be a year. I don't care. Right. But that's the point. So if if you think and and here's where we we diverge, right? Yeah. If you think America or you if you think the world is best served by one power or one leader rather than two or three, well then that leader should be in some sense uh of of sound of sound body and mind and

[33:53] I think they are and I think generally America uh so give me a give me give me give me an example of a country that is of sound body and mind there isn't so that's why okay so for example in this country they they they um experiment.

[34:11] You just said you just said that you need a country, you need a leader that is a sound body and mind if you want to Yes. If you want to have a uniolar world, if you if you want to have a uniolar, I don't think you can have I don't think one.

[34:26] So here's my question to you then. You already said as well. Yeah. That um you can't have let's let's agree on one thing. Do you agree with me? No. that three uh three tigers can't be in one cage.

[34:41] No, I don't agree. Unless that tiger who's on top of the mountain is impeccable of impeccable nature and mind. Let me ask you this then. Which tiger is impeccable?

[34:53] No, there isn't. Not generally, right? So, I think that the world is best served by a few leaders with divergent uh but they're willing to talk. And here's the problem, right? Here's the problem. You are being idealistic. I am.

[35:05] Yeah. And the world is not ideal. ideal. Well, the world is not ideal. So, so if you socialism and communism, okay, assumes the ideal. Assumes the ideal, which is what? Everybody is equal. Sounds nice, right?

[35:23] No. No, it doesn't work. Yeah. Exactly my point. But it does not work. If you have a committee of of if is not a practical realistic solution.

[35:40] So we had America lead the world for many years and there were many times in its tenure shall we say right that they did things which I didn't agree with. Yeah. Right. Um it uses its currency the global reserve one to weaponize um and and and to disenfranchise other countries. I didn't agree with that. Right. when they took Russia off the swift, right? Because they invaded Ukraine. Yes, it was a political thing, but can you use your global reserve because people are relying on your currency to do business and then you weaponize it. I didn't agree with that.

[36:11] That's wrong. Shouldn't be the case. People trust you and then you you abuse that trust. Well, right. I think and then you start wars which you don't you come to countries where you don't belong and then you start conflicts. Yes. This is not not under the Donald Trump era, but still it's America. Well, but then again, here's the

[36:29] is the biggest war mongering nation in the world. I'm not sure. I don't think it has it. It has a defense industry. It thrives on conflict. It cannot not survive without conflict. I think we have so much recency bias. It's nuts. If you ask me, we have s so much recency bias. I mean, um, if we look at things, right?

[36:52] We should actually conduct a poll. You know Sam, who among the audience believes that America should run the world and who disagrees? Go ahead. Uh, put it in the comments. Yeah. Yeah. No, you know why I say this?

[37:04] I You know why I say this? When I say run the world, right? What I mean is actually leadership. Leadership is not running the world. Leadership is showing the world or showing globally. Uh, and actually being able to manage um because why? When you have multipolar world, what happens? Everybody is joking for regional power. Okay, everybody, let's let's let's be very honest with oursel. It is not even 120 years. We've had two world wars, okay? How many countries were involved in those world wars? And after even the world wars, how many countries were involved in regional

[37:49] wars? If we were to have a unipolar world, right? Okay. Which which on balance on balance if you say that conflicts and world wars are related to a multipolar world, right? If on balance the unipolar world is less injurious than a multipolar world, right?

[38:05] Well, then we would I would like to have that country who is leading the charge be less hypocritical for one, for example, um less selfish or or less shall we say macro. May I say this then?

[38:20] I wouldn't use less. I use I would use the word relatively. Yeah. Relatively less. Right. And I'm relatively comfortable when when you have when you have institutionalized right prejudice and and racism, right? And you continue to have divis.

[38:37] What do you mean they have institutionalized racism? Oh, sorry. I I meant Malaysia. Okay. So, when you have a history of racism, right? And and who doesn't? Right. But then you go around the world and and so again this is the this is the democratic

[38:51] but who doesn't have who doesn't have a history of racism in this world everybody most people but if you want to run the world if you want to be the boss at least try and clean up your ads

[39:03] I think they have recently no so so what year what year did Lincoln fought the civil war I'm I'm not talking about Lincoln I'm talking in the last 30 years

[39:15] which is the recency bias that you refer to So if we talk about the last 30 years, they have basically in they have basically gotten rid of all the institutional racism in their country.

[39:27] Okay. So have have a country like Malaysia or have a country like um um um uh uh uh in the Middle East gotten rid of their institutionalized racism? Do you know it's only last week that Saudi Arabia has uh uh has uh has abandoned the system of actually their employers holding on to your

[39:58] passport only last week. You know, let's let's let's take it to the present. If what Donald Trump has been doing the last 12 months continues, right, with the reforms that he's been doing, with the deregulation that he's been doing, right, with with I I hate to say this because I shouldn't say, hey, but it's true with that clearheadedness and that common sensess.

[40:23] Unfortunately, the left doesn't agree with you. Okay, that's fine. Right. But but he's he's still in charge now. I mean, he's still in charge for the next two and a half years, right? 10 years, right? Sure. If that continues and if JD Vance does what it says on the tin for the next four years after that and of course if he gets re-elected

[40:40] to all intent and purposes that leadership position probably on balance should belong with the US because they're doing all the right things to me agree now that I look at it closer right

[40:52] um I agree but if they start to show signs of slipping up and and and and being muralent and hypocritical like they did in the Well, then they don't deserve that medal. Well, here's the problem. Here's

[41:04] they don't deserve the medal. They don't deserve to lead the world. Well, here's the problem that I I feel. I mean, it's not that I want people to understand one thing. I'm a policy guy. All right? I'm not uh I I I don't like I actually have a very difficult problem giving credit to people. I'm such

[41:24] which is why I see you which is why I'm surprised to see you wax so lyrical about one person as the last few months it's I am not waxing lyrical I am waxing I'm not waxing lyrical I am actually waxing lyrical about the policies

[41:41] right because because you know me I I I'm I'm such a jackass because I'm so self-critical and therefore it makes me very much more critical of other people Right?

[41:53] I don't really have a fan club of anyone. Yeah. Right. Because why? Because I see flaws in every single person. And therefore, how can you hero worship anybody?

[42:06] He's not perfect like his father. Nobody is perfect, right? But I do laugh when he says, for example, you know, um when he when he told Hillary in the debate that um uh you know, uh I use the same tax system that you know, your friends, you know, use in order to evade the you know the

[42:28] avoid avoid to avoid to avoid paying taxes, you know, to avoid paying taxes. If you uh want me to not do that, you you can change the legislation. You guys are in control, right? So when he tells truth like that,

[42:47] right? You can call him. Yeah, he's the same. He uses the same. But he's telling you the truth when he tells people in a locker room situation that if you're rich, famous, you can grab by the whatever, right? Excuse me. He's not wrong. We all know that. You don't like it. Too bad.

[43:16] But that's the truth. That's the character, right? I mean, would I have liked him to be a bit more polish in how he says it? Yes, I prefer that. And that's why when he came down to Asia to the Asian summit, I was like gobsmack. This guy was statesmanlike, you know,

[43:38] to the extent that he can be statesmanlike. Yeah. Exactly. To say not. No, but he did. He he tried. He did. He tried. He did. And he actually, you know, let let me try pretend to be um President Gi, he's a good man. I think he's a great leader.

[43:59] I think we can do a lot of business together for a long time. So, you know, but you know, but it's still the same. But but I mean going back to that this is where the problem lies with uh an evolving democracy and it evolves over um hundreds of years. Unfortunately people have to people think about 20 years 30 years 40 years uh human civilization okay evolve over at the very minimum you should look around a 100red year period. Okay. If you are going to judge a person, hey dude, I'm not the same person at 60 as I was in my 20s.

[44:44] Not even that. I mean, you're a different person than what you were in December. I mean, some of your parents might have changed by then, right? Exactly. So there were therefore when I was Yeah. Yeah. And that's a single person. So if you're going to judge a country, I would judge it at a very macro level. And I would ask this this this thing. Why would a country that goes into World War at the very last minute? They didn't want to go into World War I. They didn't want to go into World War II either until Pearl Harbor.

[45:21] Yeah. Right. Okay. And then having won the war, they were the only country that actually won the war and gave back the countries to the people who lost the war.

[45:36] All right. And help rebuild it. So that's a complex discussion. So it's it's it's all and that's where it comes to then your point. Yeah. About we like the policies that we are seeing. We see that I think you and I agree. We like the way it is heading the dismantling of the old establishment where they want regime changes. They want um to bring soal democracy to the rest of the world their way and you know to pick every fight as long as you know they can pick the fight. Okay. Now here's the difference. The so-called the Democratic Party has been the wararmongering party the last 30 years

[46:27] including the new corn that was established by rest in peace Mr. Dick Cheney, you know, right? So, you know, that's an oil man for you. Okay. So, if you look at that situation today, they don't need to fight for oil. They're the biggest oil producer. They're bigger than uh Saudi and and Russia combined.

[46:53] America, yes. Producing, not producing, not reserves, producing. producing. They're the biggest oil producer in the whole world, including the next.

[47:06] You're an oil guy, right, Sam? So, this is shale obviously, right? But how long does that not just Huh? How long does it last? How long that last? I I I tell you, I can't Here's the problem with this question, right?

[47:19] I've been dealing with peak oils since uh uh since the early '9s, the idea of peak oil since the '90s. Let me tell you this, it's going to be unlimited. This is this is my theory.

[47:34] What makes you say that? Because this so-called fossil fuel is actually uh a misnomer doesn't come from the dinosaurs. It comes from a process within the uh within our our inner uh our geothermal geothermal condition. M

[47:56] all right and there's a lot more to it's a lot more there and it's actually a lot more and the technology even for shale is actually going to be you know what they say that I'm going to buy a V12 V12 I don't care

[48:13] have you heard have you heard how EV sound they sound like a milk van mate no it sound like okay what all the people who buy EVs are

[48:25] they They have Birkenstocks, right? They have to bags. Yeah. They eat organic food. Yeah. They buy EVs. Yeah. The only thing is that we don't we still don't have the a culture of uh what do you call uh u what uh uh man buns otherwise all the EV guys will be uh you know having main male man buns. And this is the reason why actually we have this problem of exactly why the the the establishment, the left establishment, the the right establishment really hate the guts of what Donald Trump is trying to do because it dismantles all that you hate.

[49:11] Yeah. Okay. It dismantles the the the the corruption of the of the NOS's that funnels into their crony and political system. Both Republican and Democrats both I'm telling you.

[49:28] Okay. It dismantles the military industrial complex. Okay. It dismantles the globalist agenda of what has been built by Bill Gates and the Black Rocks and the WF and the European Union. Okay, this has been going on for three decades at least.

[49:50] So what Trump is doing is actually like a bull in China shop. Exactly. That he is breaking everything. Now, why is it then it is important for the Democrats to actually resist? Why do we have this federal uh shutdown? You know, because their NOS's that are getting money through all these scams are not flowing.

[50:25] Okay? Are not flowing. It's also not flowing elsewhere. elsewhere where you know where it's needed for their political power. Okay? And I'll tell you now I'll bring you to this next part which is they're going to do a census I believe in 26.

[50:44] So the last if I'm not sir the last one was 23 331 million. Yeah. Okay. So you think about this right? You think about this how does the census work in America? It is the it is it is within the constitution.

[50:59] Okay. They count persons. They don't count citizens you know. So the result of the census is going to give and every state each state additional districts.

[51:17] It also gives the more people you have additional electoral votes. What does then does that impact? It impacts not just Congress and House representative of in the House, but it also gives you more electoral votes for the presidency. All right. Why do you think they're going h Why do you think they open up the borders the way they did?

[51:46] Yeah. Okay. And then where do they ship That's the That's the true evil of it, though. I mean the where do do you think they ship all these migrants? Red states, right? Blue states. Sorry. Blue states.

[51:59] Centuries. Yeah. And where are the century cities? Blue states. So So the trick is very simple. Let's bring in more migrants. You do the census. I get more electoral votes. Okay. I skew the presidency. I skew the congressional districts. All right, that's just the first part of it. The second part of it is this. If you think there's no fraud in America, you're delusional.

[52:30] Okay, you're absolutely delusional. Especially when you talk about two things. One is mailin votes. Okay, do you know guys, let let me tell you guys the experience of Malaysia. If we know that there are late mail votes coming in from any district, we know there's fraud going on. Okay. All right. Mailing votes are the best way to make to to to actually uh stuff the mail the the the ballot boxes

[53:00] uh you know to to to skew to your to to your preferred candidate in your district that you control. You know when I knew less than I want what I do now right sir because we few minutes left. So we want to talk about the whole Gates U-turn on climate and all right but um I remember I was watching TV and Joe Biden's wife I can't remember the name now right

[53:21] and it was very clear even then that um Joe Biden was very well he was a few beers short of a six-pack already his cognitive abilities had declined so considerably that even the even his own party people within his own party were concerned about his ability to lead the country and even then on television his wife was saying that his son of mine. He can still leave the country. I used to think to myself, I was thinking to myself,

[53:46] and the mainstream media were all like, he's fine. He's fine, right? I'm like, what the Right. I thought to myself, why is this woman so invested in her husband staying in government? And now I know why. Because of all these things that are happening.

[54:00] Yeah. America is as is as corrupt if not more corrupt than. Let's ask this question. No, I can tell you one thing. You do not get this is a very simple thing because the numbers are bigger.

[54:12] No, no. The the thing is very simple. If you are corrupt, if you are so corrupt, what happens is you hit a middle income trap. Okay? All right. Your GDP cap per capita does not grow.

[54:26] All right? Your GDP can grow, but your GDP per capita does not grow. All right? That is why you have relative corruption. You that is why I I I I cannot agree with you on that. Okay, that is why Singapore has got a GDP per capita almost equal to America if not more. All right, because their level of corruption is much much much much lower than ours.

[54:51] Okay, and the US. All right, why is the China GDP per capita as equal to a to Malaysia and yet their GDP is the second highest in the world?

[55:03] G GDP per capita. No, their GDP per capita is the same as Malaysia is the same as Malaysia but at the at the at the at the macro level their GDP as a whole is the second highest in the whole world.

[55:19] It doesn't make sense. Okay. So it's very simple. My thesis has always been corruption is number one reason for that. Okay. Now when we talk about actually I did a simple I'll did a simple calculation where we talk about the sense oh do you know something all right when I was in school I had a social security number okay because I in the US

[55:45] oh good all right okay you there's a few ways for you to get an identity card basically in in in the in America they don't really have an identity card right but if you want to get paid you need a social security number or you want to if you want to drive, you need a driver's license and and whatnot. Okay? But in certain states in America, especially in the blue states like California, you don't it is illegal for you to actually ask for their proof of citizenship.

[56:21] Okay. Incredible, man. It's incredible. Right. you go and try and vote in in in in our country and see whether you you can vote without your ID and then you know you get an electoral vote electoral role right first we have to register

[56:37] right so if I can register based on my social security number or whatever card I have or whatever I have my name in the electoral roles that play the social I go to vote right I go to vote you can't ask for my ID to see whether my ID matches

[56:56] my my vote or not. And you think that there is no uh fraud happening and you just got in Iowa a superintendent that's been for 30 years in education.

[57:08] Yeah. Right. So here's my quick thesis on the 2020 election. Okay, I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it. In 2012, the total registered vote was 153 million. Okay. Total Democratic vote was 65.9 million. Republican votes were 60.9 million. Obama won 2012.

[57:34] Okay. That was the first time uh a black was won the uh election. Okay. And he won by about 5 million majority vote. Right. It was a very high turnout.

[57:53] All right. 2016 the registered votes were 214 million people. Okay. Total Democrat vote which Hillary won is 65. 85 million. So she received less votes than Obama did

[58:19] as a percentage of the total. No, I'm talking about absolute number here. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm talking absolute number here. Okay. Um what's it? U Trump Trump won the electoral college. He won the presidency by electoral college but lost the majority

[58:43] in terms of total votes. Okay. His vote is only 62.98 million. So he approximately lost slightly less than 3 million votes

[58:56] and yet won the electoral college. Fine. That's their system. All right. But remember Obama won with registered vote 153 million. Hillary won with 250 214 million votes total registered voters that that that that voted

[59:18] that went to vote in 2020 that was COVID year. Remember, I want you to guess, give a rough guess. What is the total registered voters that went in and vote

[59:36] because No, tell me. No, because they had nothing else to do and probably it was a lot higher than 200 million. 168 million. Oh Is that right? Yes. What are they doing? What are Americans doing? You

[59:49] must remember. Okay. Lockdowns. Yeah. But you can just register your interest now, can't you? So why do they care? Here's the here's the kicker. We are math guys, right? Yeah.

[1:00:01] Okay. Guess how many votes did uh Biden Gunner? 40 something. 81.28 million. What the hell? I didn't know that. Right. How much How many votes did uh uh Trump got? 74 million. That's so weird,

[1:00:23] right? Explain that. Okay, let me tell you in 2024. Yeah. Guess how many people vote uh pony was uh how many registered voters uh uh was there?

[1:00:37] Don't even want to try. 174 million. right? That's not good. Okay, but guess where the Democrat votes Kamala got? 66 million.9. Okay. And Trump won the majority vote by 71.85 million.

[1:01:06] Odd, right? Isn't it odd? It's very odd. Don't make sense. There's no trend line. It does not make sense. There's no trend line. And here's another thing that you guys got to remember. Yeah. 2020 is a COVID year. Okay, here are the states that did not have full lockdowns. Arkansas red state, Iowa, the states that you have blue, Nebraska, red, North Dakota, red, Utah, red, Wyoming, red. Relax. Relaxed. You can still move around with some conditions.

[1:01:42] Okay. Florida red, Arizona blue. Biden won by 0.4%. Okay. And in Arizona, so Biden won Michigan, Pennsylvania in Wisconsin, the SW swing states. Guess by how much? 154,000, 81,000, and 21,000 vote budget. So in total, the swing state he won is only 300,000. Okay. But yet Biden won the popular vote margin by 7 million. Okay. So basically he outd did the most popular president. Okay. In the Democrat era

[1:02:27] by using Mexicans by uh uh even beating Obama's margin. So was he using Mexicans and other using Americans to do so? Okay. So I leave to our audience to really think about this. Okay. And when do you to really think about this? How much mail ballots were involved?

[1:02:52] Okay. How much fraud was involved? How much how do you go when you see it? Obama got 65.9. Hillary got 65.8. 8 Kamala Harris got 66.9. That's about right. Okay. And all of a sudden, good old Joe got 81 million, my man. Okay. Republican. All right. between 2020 and 2024. All right, Trump bring in a lot more minorities into his camp, right? And first time voters and only managed to get 71 million, 72 million, 71 and 88 85 million. How did Biden achieve 81 million votes? Dude, I rest my case. It's a fraud. Okay, let's cut today's discussion if

[1:03:56] possible. Yeah, maybe with a throw ahead, right? We're going to talk to S next week. Yeah, tomorrow. Um, yeah, call it a Friday, our Friday session at at CT Plus. We're going to do something interesting for our Malaysian audience and for also for our American audience

[1:04:14] because it's instructive how um misallocation of resources can go wrong. Yes. Yeah. And actually uh I I think what would be interesting, we're going to pick a it's it's it's a very specific topic which is uh we're going to talk about the projects under the prime minister Mahade.

[1:04:35] Okay. Which is one of the the longest serving prime minister in Malaysia history and oldest in the second period. And oldest in the second period. He basically took Malaysia from an agrarian country to an industrialized country.

[1:04:50] But what we are going to do is look at projects and how the what is the impacts of the project that he has carried out and and and where it where it worked and where it failed and why.

[1:05:06] Okay. And then you and for the international audience understand one thing about Malaysia. Malaysia is almost a microcosm if you really look at it of the United States. Okay. And how we manage we have almost except for the executive branch which is direct

[1:05:29] uh uh direct u uh what do you call uh direct representation. Okay. We are a parliamentary system which we inherited from the commonwealth.

[1:05:41] Okay. Which you have as well in America. And then we install from the legislature our executive who comes from the parliament which is the prime minister. Okay. And he has a lot of executive powers. And so you've got a combined executive and a rubber step parliamentary system.

[1:06:02] Okay. and how these projects were implemented. Reflect on all this that we're going to discuss and ask yourself how does this compare to the last three decades and what has been happening in America? Why the situation need to be actually dismantled by the STR 2.0 O regime and hopefully the next regime continues for at least another two terms in order for you to see because Rome was never built in a single day. So if you want to make America great again, it's not going to be within this first term of the Trump 2.0.

[1:06:45] Yeah, I couldn't put it any better, son. So yeah um if you can uh come in for the next episode please and uh do the necessary necessary. Hey by the way 98% of our viewers are not subscribe.

[1:06:58] 98% 98% come on guys let's do it. Let's give a different perspective than what you've been hearing from, you know, the the the uh the mainream

[1:07:10] the mainstream and even even the even the alternative media in in America, you're hearing the same way they're talking. you know, we have a perspective that actually gives you say, hey, the world is looking at you and looking at America and saying this is outside the bubble how we see stuff. Yeah.

[1:07:32] You know, knowing it very well. So, thank you so much. Appreciate your time and uh see you again. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot.